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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 07:20 AM
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Entire Liberal Oasis Today on Howard Dean
Just last month, LiberalOasis asked if anyone can stop Howard Dean?

Maybe the question should be: Can everyone (including Dean) stop Dean?

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Bottom line: Dean’s still in the middle of his biggest test so far. He hasn’t passed it yet.

http://www.liberaloasis.com
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 07:25 AM
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1. There hasn't even been
a primary or caucus yet. All the candidates haven't announced yet. At this point in 1991, Clinton was nearly unknown.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:25 AM
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6. In 1992, the primaries were not stacked so close to each other
so Clinton had time after New Hampshire to get ready for the other primaries.

Can't do that this election cycle? The primaries are stacked in favor of incumbants or Establishment candidates with high name recognition. That's why Dean had to start campaigning as early as he did.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 07:25 AM
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2. I'm sure people are going to bash today's piece but...
I think it was completely fair and asked the right questions. I consider LO to be the best source for unbiased lib analysis of the days and weeks political events/spin.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 07:26 AM
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3. A relatively fair article...
I may not agree with the entire article, but some good points were made. NO candidate has the nomination sewn up, and all of them can use this time before the general election to focus their messages and positions.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 07:31 AM
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4. I sure hope that's what Dean is doing
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 07:54 AM
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5. Someone recently posted that Gephardt was sending out
his researchers to dig up the dirt. And if you are involved in politics there is going to be dirt-dirty or not. The Dean team's campaign is brilliant but he needs backroom research operatives to keep the hounds at bay when it comes to this hardball. Know all there is to know. Keep the focus on Bush--but be wearing heavy boots when the nipping at your heels starts from behind.


Gephardt can be ripped to shreds playing the gotcha game, but it is distracting and only serves to promote more publicity for Gephardt.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:31 AM
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7. Good Observation~!
Blog it! :-)
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:36 AM
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8. A very fair article
Dean is being called out over every little thing. That's what happens when you're making the news. The question remains: can he survive it. If not, he's got no right winning the nomination anyway. If he does survive it (and I think he will), he's that much more prepared for Bush.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:38 AM
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9. Thanks for posting this
As it gives some context to the "worst things" quote.

DEAN: Of course I support Medicare. That's ridiculous. I certainly have been very angry at Medicare over their bureaucratic stuff.

They're really difficult bureaucratically to deal with.

(Note: This is backed up in what Gephardt quotes from.

In the 8/3/93 AP story with the ominous title “Liberal Doctor Is Conservative on Health Care Reform,” Dean followed his “worst things” comment with:

“My father was in the hospital last year and he still can't get his bills straightened out because nobody who knows anything will talk to him at Medicare. It's just a pathetic bureaucracy.”)

Gives a much different cast to those comments. I am sure this was an honest mistake by Gephardt. Surely he didn't edit this out on purpose. Can't have done that.
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