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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:53 PM
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Tom Toles on Al Gore's Endorsement of Howard Dean in today's WP
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:59 PM
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1. OH! I get it! The WP says that Al Gore is gay!
What a novel insult to Gore. See, the WP hadn't thrown every insult in the book at Gore! They have more Gore hatred that we hadn't even thought they might insult him with gratuitously.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:01 PM
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2. Gore can't catch a break
This guy is the most abused politician I've seen come down the pike in a long time. Absolutely hated by the right. Death from a thousand cuts from the left.

The hell of it is, he is a much better executive than we deserve as a nation. Smart, thoughtful, forward-thinking. The President-in-exile is looking better and better to me, through tired eyes that are weary from viewing the Chimpmeister run this Republic into the ground.

Even Toles, who is normally great, can't help but get a dig in here.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:27 PM
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3. Amazing isn't it
All the crap going on and so much time and effort devoted to whining about Gore endorsing someone.

I don't imagine he meant it to be another distraction, but it looks like that's what everyone is going to make of it. I haven't yet decided who I am going to support for the nomination, but I understand his urgent call to get us to focus.

Way too forward-thinking, sadly.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:31 PM
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4. Actually, part of the timing may have been to distract
from Dim Son signing the Medicare Privatization Act, which is fine with me. I'm just amazed at the vitriol the media keeps in reserve for Gore. Much as in this cartoon, it's not directed so much at Dean, but at Gore, who "we"'ve been taught to love to hate. He is the object of our Two Minute Hate.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:41 PM
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5. The point of the cartoon is that Gore is irrelevant.
His endorsement of Dean is more of an attempt to boost himself by hopping on the bandwagon than anything else.

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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:43 PM
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6. Yes, its that rotten old Gore again
we can't say enough bad things about him.

I wonder why Democrats keep losing elections?

Oh well, time to make more typey-typey at DemocraticUnderground!
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:46 PM
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7. Who said Gore is rotten? Why put words in my mouth?
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:47 PM
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8. Sorry,
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 04:50 PM by ProfessorPlum
I meant "it's that _irrelevant_ old Gore again".
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:51 PM
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10. Gore is as relevant as
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 04:53 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
every other Presidential candidate who never made it into the White House.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 05:04 PM
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11. funny.
very funny.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 05:22 PM
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13. So Gary Hart's endorsement of Kerry is counted there...
I'm glad you agree it is irrelevant as well.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 05:32 PM
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16. I agree that Gore is about as relevant as Hart, yes.
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:57 PM
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21. & Beetle Bailey is as relevant as..Napoleon? VP Gore = 'Skipper' Hart?
I'd say the world media coverage of a Gore endorsement v. the media coverage of a Hart endorsement would be just a tad bit different and Hart's endorsement would be just a tad less interesting...or effective & would not carry the same impact on this particular presidential race...I'd say that.

Dean '04...The New Democratic Leader of The NEW Democratic Party.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 10:54 PM
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23. Is Sally Worth as relevant as Genghis Kahn?
Dagwood Bumstead and Winston Churchill?

:wtf:



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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:50 PM
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9. Fean, you figured it out. It's a funny bit.
Toles is always on the one.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 05:22 PM
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12. So did you think Gore was irrelevant before the endorsement?
Did you cheer any of his recent speeches?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 05:37 PM
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17. Yeah the speeches recently were good
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 05:42 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
but I'm not the only one around here who wondered why he didn't talk that way when he was campaigning. As to how relevant they were, well it was big news here at DU, but the general media did not really report what he said. Maybe Gore is still thinking of running in 08 but I think it's a fantasy.

Oh, by the way, I said the point of the cartoon was that Al Gore is irrelevant. I didn't say that I think Al Gore is irrelevant. Somehow I got sucked into defending the statement 'Al Gore is irrelevant.' I didn't make that statement and I don't wish to defend it.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 05:43 PM
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19. They were top headlines on Yahoo plus full-page text advertising in
USA Today...hmmm, I suppose those reading the highest circulation newspaper and the most popular single page on the web ignored them.

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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 10:47 PM
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22. Those Yahoo articles did not accurately report what Gore said.
None of the media did. The only way to find out was to download the speech transcripts. So what else is new.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 10:12 AM
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25. Make sure you don't reference any media in support of Kerry...
Because the media are always wrong. At least that's what I read here...so any positives about Kerry must definitely be wrong.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 12:43 PM
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27. Your comments are so stupid and spiteful.
I just don't get it. Why make an argument out of everything? The media didn't report what Gore said in his speeches accurately. Are you denying that? What does it have to do with the " the media are always wrong " ?
Who said that? What is your point other than the fact that you like to argue? Are you over 16? If so, why don't you act that way?

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PAMod Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 05:40 PM
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18. Gore is irrelevant, but Gary Hart is not?
I only ask this because a few months back when Hart came out for Kerry, it was lauded as a major endorsement coup.

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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 12:57 PM
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28. This is a cartoon about Gore and Dean, Gary Hart isn't in it.
If you don't like the message of the cartoon, perhaps you should write Tom Toles and tell him so.

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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 05:25 PM
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14. It's a joke, people!
It's an allusion to Gore's appearance on Saturday Night Live when he and Tipper lip-locked for an incredibly long time.

Toles is a good guy, one of my favorite cartoonists, and not a Dem basher.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 05:26 PM
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15. I agree...only some of the responses are doing the Dem bashing (n/t)
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:00 PM
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20. Lydia, thanks for EXPLAINING it, LOL.
It's really not that subtle - I'm surprised so many Deanies didn't get it.

The Kiss.
Gore hitching his wagon to Dean's star.
(and the little civil unions aside)

Very clever.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 09:59 AM
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24. DOH!
(sound of palm smacking forehead)

Of course - the kiss. I think that was actually at the DNC convention, wasn't it? Here I thought Toles was being bitchy.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:05 PM
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29. ya, I found it funny
The Kiss is obviously an allusion to Al and Tipper's five minute long kidd from the convention and later replay on SNL.

"Ok, Ok, Al, I accept your endorsement." sounds like something a straight man who had just been kissed passionately would say.

IT'S FUNNY!
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