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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 03:51 PM
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Harness wind energy not nuclear, says Magsaysay awardee (India)
http://southasia.oneworld.net/article/view/155101/1/

HYDERABAD: Social activist and Ramon Magsaysay award winner Sandeep Pandey has suggested that the Central Government concentrate on harnessing wind power instead of opting for nuclear fuel to meet the increasing demand for energy.

The country has a potential of generating 45,000 MW power from wind energy with much lesser costs, compared to nuclear fuel that involves huge costs. Wind power is currently contributing to five per cent of the country’s energy needs, against the three per cent of nuclear energy, and there was enormous potential if it is properly harnessed.

Speaking to The Hindu, Dr. Pandey, who was here on Sunday, said coupled with other non-conventional energy sources like solar, bio-waste and mini hydel projects, the country could easily meet its emerging requirements.

Moreover, a majority of developed countries were rejecting nuclear energy and the Indo-US nuclear deal was only aimed at benefiting the American industry.

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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:00 PM
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1. the new vacuum tube solar system is said to be able to produce 70%+ of daytime energy, with 3 ten
mile sq collection sites.. .. there are numerous ways to be free of foreign oil.. and our own, which we need much more for necessities other than fuel in the long term
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:24 PM
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2. No alternative energy source is a "one size fits all" solution.
And I doubt many parts of India are at all suited for wind-only.

There are far too many ways to generate energy for a supposed expert to be touting a single, worst solution for his own country.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:45 PM
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3. i was talking about here and a combination of everything
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:52 PM
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4. Sorry, I was reinforcing your stance while replying to the OP.
I know you "get it."
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 05:35 PM
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5. sorry, i am freak'n out about right here, right now.. if we just went to non carbon chain oil like
AMSOIL we could be free of foreign oil. it uses a 30,000 bypass filter an you only have to change the oil every 250,000 miles, it also provides extended wear, a typical engine should get about 1,000,000 miles of wear with 8 -10% better fuel economy. there are semi trucks on the road with over 3,000,000 miles on them

hemp oil fuel would free us of foreign oil, and tie up auto produced carbon in a plant to fuel loop. hemp oil needs very little processing and produces very very little pollution.

time has actually run out but we might have a chance to alter things enough to save our species
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 05:42 PM
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6. You're preaching to the choir.
I've been into all this stuff since 1978. Huge fan of pyrolysis, hemp, solar, wind, wave, biomass, biodiesel, veggie oil, NG/LPG/Hydrogen injection on gas or diesel engines, geothermal, wood gas, etc....

Am looking up AMSOIL as soon as I post this. Sounds familiar, but I'm clueless at the moment.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 06:41 PM
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7. started by a Marine fighter pilot it started out as jet engine oil, they have developed quite a good...
product.. it has a flash point around 397*,

my brother, a 50's hot rod enthusiast, built his dream high tech rod engine ..350 chevy for his 57 ford PU.. he had to break in the engine with regular oil.. when he changed It over io AMSOIL , it lubricates so much better, he had to set the idle back 200 rpm.

i put it in my Nissan, engine and trans, my mileage went from 36 mpg to 40/42 mpg..

i got the single filter bypass, wasn't hard to set up.. my brother used to sell it.. he'd talk to you about it if you want
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:29 PM
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8. Now I know where I saw it before.
Thanks for the info and I'll definitely keep it in mind. I currently live in DC and got rid of my car over three years ago as it was just too much trouble and money. I was only driving once every three weeks or so and it got to the point where the tires and battery were going flat between uses. I'm using FlexCar (car sharing) now whenever the subway or walking won't cut it. When I do buy a new car, I will definitely consider replacing the stock oil and filter immediately.

I checked out the bypass system you were talking about and - finally - found someone that sells a stock pre-lube system too:

http://www.syntheticwarehouse.com/bypass.htm

Aside from engine wear caused by filters, the rest is caused by low-oil conditions on start-up. The pre-lube system shoots some oil into the header before you start the car and nearly eliminates all engine wear.

I'm hoping that there will be better alternatives to the current crop of cars on the market by the time I'm ready to buy another one. Chevy (I think) is talking about a full-size, diesel, series, plug-in hybrid that should get better than 50 mpg stock and, with LPG injection at the air intake, that could go over 60 mpg. I would like an all-electric, but the cost of a car with enough lithium ion batteries for long distance driving isn't going to drop to my price range in the near future.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 12:02 AM
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9. Um 45,000 MW?
With one billion people, that breaks down to about 45 watts per person.

I guess they won't be having big yuppie turkey dinners in India, where 40 people travel a brazillion miles to eat locally grown organic food.

But listen, it's not like yuppie anti-nukes have ever given a rat's ass about poor people.

You see that? In spite of India's emphasis on producing fine scientists, there are still Indians who can't tell the difference between power and energy. Ignorance is hardly dead in India, apparently, and there are Indians who can't tell the difference between intermittant energy and continuous energy.

India's average coal output in 2005 amounted to about 310,000 MW of delivered continuous average power. The anti-nuke religion couldn't care less about this coal, just as it couldn't care less about poverty.

I have been to India and I've seen what's happening there. I can tell you that there is a sea of people there who are not having the organic "locally grown" turkey with a glass of Allen's Coffee Brandy.

I can tell you also that being a "social activist" in no way qualifies one to make pronouncements about energy.

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