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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 09:59 AM
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Flying cars swoop to the rescue
BBC News



Flying cars may be 25 years or more away

As motorways become more and more clogged up with traffic, a new generation of flying cars will be needed to ferry people along skyways.

That is the verdict of engineers from the US space agency and aeronautical firms, who envision future commuters travelling by "skycar".

These could look much like the concept skycar shown in the picture, designed by Boeing research and development.

However, such vehicles could be some 25 years from appearing on the market.
More:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3676694.stm
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:03 AM
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1. mini-helicopters?
or am I seeing that wrong?

Considering how badly most people drive, allowing most people to fly is...scary.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:07 AM
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2. Not to mention the power (i.e., FUEL) required.
I really don't see how flying cars would solve anything, as much as I would LOOOOVE to have one.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:02 PM
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14. Some guy built a prototype of a flying car. He got like 28 mpg on it.
That's better than a Arnolds hummer.

Heres the link.

http://www.moller.com/skycar/
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:10 AM
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5. Generally envisioned to be totally automated.
They plan to take human error out of the picture by creating aerial highways traversed only by totally automated vehicles. You'd get in, close the doors, type in an address or otherwise tell it where to take you, then sit back and enjoy the ride.

However, being a pilot, it'll be a long time before I ever climb into one. Automation is great at handling predictable situations, but horrendous at handling the unexpected. For that you still need an engaged human at the controls.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:09 AM
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3. Twenty five years away?
Well, they better not need petroleum fuel, in that case.

I think our 'George Jetson/Star Trek future' window has closed for the time being....Looking more like Mad Max every day...

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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:28 AM
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8. doesn't look good then..



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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:42 AM
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10. LOL!
He's my hero!


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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:30 AM
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9. Fuel is definitely an issue as well.
Edited on Wed Sep-22-04 10:31 AM by Ready4Change
Fuel-wise, Jetsons/Star Trek assume plentiful and nearly free energy.

Large airliners can get surprisingly good fuel milage per passenger. As much as 60 mpg when fully loaded, figured for a Boeing 777. However, the smaller an aircraft gets, the worse it's fuel milage per passenger becomes. In the end, as long as you don't need to get where you are going very quickly, ground transportation will always be more fuel efficient.

So, a single passenger air car, especially in helicopter form, trying to get some where quickly, is about the worst milage vehicle you can envision.
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:09 AM
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4. Deja vu all over again.
Go to your friendly local Paper Emphera show -- or you might find it in a library -- and look through Popular Science issues from the fifties, and you will discover that everybody will have flying cars by, oh, about 1980 or so.

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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:16 AM
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6. One Phrase - Peak Oil - Where Will The Fuel Come From To Power
these machines?

Move along folks - more pie in the sky - technically feasible yet decidedly impractical.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:27 AM
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7. God, this is like reading a 1966 issue of "Boys Life"
"Next, Ken, Kelly and Dr. Jones prepare for their rocket-powered daytrip to the Bahamas."
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Buck Turgidson Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 11:01 AM
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11. You can buy one soon.
The Skycar

Moller International has developed the first and only feasible, personally affordable, personal vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) vehicle the world has ever seen.



http://www.moller.com/skycar/
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 11:46 AM
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12. Sure, if you want to get a pilot's license to go with it...
Edited on Wed Sep-22-04 11:48 AM by MercutioATC
Plus, the quote from the FAQ page "Since the M400 has not yet been flown..." doesn't sound too promising to me...
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Buck Turgidson Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:38 PM
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15. Of course, you're right..
..but I am just fascinated with the concept of a flying car. The Skycar will set you back a mere $500,000. If it ever actually flys.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 10:56 AM
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16. I agree in theory, but there are a LOT of obstacles.
...not the least of which is flying safety.

We're simply not set up for air commuting...there are too many planes in the sky in some locations as it is. Fascinating concept, but not practical.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 05:18 PM
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13. THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID 25 YEARS AGO!
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