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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 05:29 PM
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Local man entering X-Prize Automotive Race with car powered by magnets
http://newstribune.com/articles/2009/01/22/news_local/343local03magnets.txt
Posted: Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 - 03:02:17 pm CST

Local man entering X-Prize Automotive Race with car powered by magnets

By Angie Hutschreider
News Tribune

The Maxwell-Edison Energy Research Institute (MEERI) in Jefferson City, announced its entry in the X-Prize Automotive Race on Tuesday, while demonstrating one component of the first Maxwellian Magnetic Conduction Flow Field Motor.

Thom Day, founder and president of MEERI, plans to take a Ford product - likely a Focus - and remove the gas tanks and lines. Then the car, which may have a battery to help run the lighting system, literally will run off of the pull of magnets, which will be based in a titanium or aluminum motor.

The idea of magnetrokinetics began in the 1870 when James Clerk Maxwell, a Scottish mathematician and physicist, demonstrated that electricity, magnetism and even light are all manifestations of the same phenomenon: the electromagnetic field.

Day, began experimenting with the energy produced by magnets more than 30 years ago when he built a floatation device that demonstrates a magnet's ability to “float” an object after the forces from conflicting magnets essentially renders the object weightless.



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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 05:32 PM
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1. Let me join you.
:banghead::banghead:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 05:33 PM
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2. Ecotopia is upon us!
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 05:36 PM
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3. Why does it need a battery to run the lights?
Just put in a magnetrokinetics powered generator.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 06:05 PM
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5. Bingo! I think you have a clue.
Steady state magnets will not power anything. Something has to move in relation to the magnetic field. And that takes a power source of some kind.
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Optical.Catalyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 09:39 AM
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21. Ya see the car is moving through the Earth's magnetic field
This sets up a positive feed back loop with the car's magnetics causing the car to move faster and faster. In no time the car will be moving so fast it will burn up from friction and contribute to Global Warming.

This car is a bad idea and the inventor should be arrested.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 06:01 PM
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4. Anything's possible... or so they say. n/t
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:00 PM
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16. "They" say the damndest things.
One of my favorites from Tuesday was that Obama proved that anyone could now be the President of the USA.

I sure hope not! As I said at the time, "You mean if he was stupid or crazy we still would have elected him!?"
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 06:09 AM
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18. *cough*
> As I said at the time, "You mean if he was stupid or crazy we still
> would have elected him!?"

2000-2008?

QED

:hide:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 08:09 AM
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19. GW already proved that. n/t
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:58 AM
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20. Sorry, forgot to tag that one
IRONY
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 06:27 PM
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6. There are no engineers or physicists who have seen it who say
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:53 PM
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7. Who have seen it.
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 07:58 PM by drm604
"There are no engineers or physicists who have seen it who say it doesn't work."

That's a meaningless statement unless we're told how many have seen it. In that video there is one man referred to as an engineer but nothing is said about what type of engineer he is or what his qualifications are. Even if he is an engineer he could be a particularly gullible one, or it could be a scam and he could be in on it.

As stated in the video, none of the scientists at the local university had examined it yet. Why not? If they truly are so interested, as the reporter claims, then surely this inventor would have invited them over to examine it by now if it's for real. Perhaps the problem is that real scientists wouldn't be fooled in which case he would lose his investors.

Like I said in a previous post, why does the car need batteries? That's a huge red flag right there. If this idea is real then it could be used to power everything in the car, including the lights.

That video was posted in February of 2008. It's hard to say how long before that it was broadcast. It states that the engine will be ready within a year, so we should be seeing it any day now. I'm not holding my breath.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:02 PM
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8. The car obviously needs a battery to get it started. n/t
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:16 PM
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11. That's not what the article says the battery is for.
Thom Day, founder and president of MEERI, plans to take a Ford product - likely a Focus - and remove the gas tanks and lines. Then the car, which may have a battery to help run the lighting system, literally will run off of the pull of magnets, which will be based in a titanium or aluminum motor.

The founder and president says that it may have a battery to help run the lighting system. Like I said, why?
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:31 PM
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12. Not as long as its on a hill. n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:06 PM
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9. Ah, yes...but for him to put this together, he'll need a few
INVESTORS. For just a small investment, you can get in on the ground floor of this earthshaking discovery of his.

Don't miss the opportunity of a lifetime! Contact him now!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:12 PM
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10. Thom Day also has a cure for cancer, it seems...
He details it in a wonderful pseudoscientific paper here:

http://www.dcrf.org/bionomy.htm

Note that it is the same Thom Day from Missouri. A true renaissance man, to be sure.
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:51 PM
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13. Will use the same amount of energy that any other car that
size requires. A magnet has an attraction. In order for it to move, you would have to continually move the object that the magnet is attracted to away from the magnet. This takes the same amount of energy as moving a car. Nothing is free. It might be cute and all the rest, but it will cost the same to move a magnet car as it does to move a Pris.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:06 PM
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14. No big deal. My car runs on wishful thinking and farts n/t
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:16 PM
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15. i smell bs
It sounds like a perpetual motion machine.
I've seen some interesting magnetic pulse engines, but ALL of them
have an external energy source.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:14 AM
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17. It will work perfectly (if the course is all downhill)
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