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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 05:52 AM
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Bernie Sanders: How to Solve Global Warming for Twice the Jobs and Half the Cost
Video: http://vimeo.com/3577556
Article: http://washingtonindependent.com/33343/bernie-sanders-on-the-green-movement-this-is-our-moment

Bernie Sanders on the Green Movement: This Is ‘Our Moment’
By Aaron Wiener 3/11/09 12:35 PM

As a member of the two Senate committees on energy and the environment issues, and the chairman of the new Green Jobs and the New Economy Subcommittee, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is in a strong position to weigh in on the country’s green future. At a breakfast this morning with environmental reporters, he waxed optimistic about the prospects for a national energy transformation.

Calling this “our moment” to fix the country’s economic problems, Sanders shot down concerns about the feasibility of creating a green economy in a matter of years. “I would remind everybody, when sometimes we are a little depressed about the situation and how slow government works, I want you go back to 1941, go back to December 1941, when this country was attacked at Pearl Harbor and America had to respond and fight wars on two fronts, in Asia and Europe, had to completely retool its economy to a war economy. We did this in two years. Two years. So anybody who tells you we can’t retool this economy to combat the danger of global warming and move to sustainable energy, move to a new transportation system, I think they are missing the boat. It can be done.”

The opportunity to transform the economy, he explained, comes not only from the economic crisis, but also from the election of President Obama. “For many years now, we have been very slow to react,” he said. “And certainly under Bush, we had a president who was working hand-in-glove with big energy, was part of big energy, certainly did not understand the problem. But now that we have a new president who does understand the problem, that does not for one moment, not for one second suggest that we do not need a strong grassroots movement all over this country to support the president and to push the president to move in a right direction.”

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Sanders spoke as part of a release ceremony for a new report (PDF) from the German Aerospace Center (”the German equivalent of NASA”) on how to reduce carbon dioxide emissions 23 percent by 2020 and 85 percent by 2050 using existing technology (I’ll have more on the report later). These targets are much more ambitious than the goals set forth by Obama, who has called for a 14 percent reduction by 2020. But Sanders dismissed the notion that Obama’s plans were too timid.

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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:05 AM
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1. Bernie is right.
We can do it and we must.
K&R
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:51 AM
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2. K&R
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Beavker Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:25 AM
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3. Exactly right. The only problem is...
that the war threatened the Wealth of the Rich. They would obviously lose their wealth if we were taken over by another country. They were behind it.

Going green kills the stock of the Oil Industry, Coal, and Nuclear...all things that we as pee-ons cannot do ourselves to create energy. I can put solar panels up. You can drill for Geothermal, you can capture the wind.

...I can't split atoms. I could burn some coal, but don't have the storage (and I imagine it would be illegal for me anyway) nor can I burn coal all day to create my energy needs. I can't make gasoline by refining and drilling for Crude Oil. I must pay someone to do that.

Too much money is in the hands of the people who can control this, and quite frankly, I don't think we'll ever be motivated and unified enough as citizens to demand that these changes take place. We barely got any action when the Gas prices skyrocketed. Nothing but the economy tanking due to these same people, created more affordable gas. Now Gallup says people are more open to Nuclear then ever. Despite their tanking numbers, and recent poor results in the elections lately, the GOP still has large numbers, and flocks and flocks of sheep that will follow whatever these people say.

We are weak as people of a 'democracy' and complacent to allow the wealthy to run our lives.

We gripe all the time about how much $ pro athletes get, yet pile into the stadiums almost in record numbers. Despite the payrolls, poor performances, steroid use (cheating), and amoral nature of many of these athletes, WE, as citizens keep banking their payrolls.

I don't have much hope. I pitty my infant child because it's only going to be worse for him, unless his Dad is one of those rich pig bastards.

I am not.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 12:40 PM
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4. Indeed
They are pulling our strings. But the reality is that we, today, as a people on the face of this planet, have it better than any before. Even your kids have a shot, albeit a minor one, of having it good.

10 years ago, for me, hope was just a town in Arkansas. Otherwise there was no hope. But now there is a kindling fire of hope within these tubes. We ended the wholesale theft of our votes via these tubes. Lets keep it going. Don't stop thinking about tomorrow!
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:07 PM
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5. K&R n/t
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 09:11 PM
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6. Well here's an idea: Why don't we rail and rail and rail and rail and rail
Edited on Fri Mar-20-09 09:12 PM by NNadir
endlessly against the world's largest, by far, form of climate change gas free energy until we can get lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of jobs paying $5.00/day supporting theoretical make believe forms of energy that would be toxic if they actually worked?

It worked for Amory Lovins.

I'll bet that every morning immigrants from El Salvador trek 50 miles down route 82 in the back of a bus stinking of urine just to trim the bushes around the Snowmass solar house.

Actually wealth is tied to productivity - which is tied, in turn, to mass density.

Right now Vermont is the only State in New England that essentially generates almost all of its electricity by totally climate change gas free means.

But there are of course, a bunch of very, very, very, very, very, very, very poorly educated brats who want to change all that by doing things like grinding up Vermont's forests, carbonizing them, and heaving them out of smokestacks in the form of PAH's.

It's pretty much - along with dangerous natural gas - exactly what happened in nearby Maine.



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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:03 AM
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8. No
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:32 AM
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9. Yes
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 03:25 AM
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10. .
Edited on Sat Mar-21-09 03:27 AM by Systematic Chaos
Forget it, I have better things to do with my time.
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Terry in Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:48 PM
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11. Actually, more rail is just what we need
Trains rock!

;-)
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