Cold Fusion Is Hot Again, 60 Minutes

[HysteryDiagnosis]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/17/60minutes/main4952167.shtml

At the atomic level, palladium looks like a lattice and the electricity drives the deuterium to the palladium. "They sit on the surface and they pop inside the lattice," he explained, using an artist's rendition of the lattice.

McKubre believes there is a nuclear reaction - possibly a fusion process like what happens in the sun, but occurring inside the metal, at a slower rate, and without dangerous radiation.

Scientists today like to call it a nuclear effect rather than cold fusion. At least 20 labs working independently have published reports of excess heat - heat up to 25 times greater than the electricity going in.

"This little piece of palladium metal has about a third as much energy as the battery in your automobile. So very small volumes, very small masses can produce large amounts of energy," he explained, holding a small piece of palladium foil weighing just 0.3 grams.

McKubre has been working on this since that first discredited claim of cold fusion made headlines 20 years ago.

[MannyGoldstein]

1. I've Always Thought That Pons and Fleischmann Must Have Seen *Something*

It would just be to bizarre to make that up.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

2. On the video, they regret calling it "fusion", wished they had called

it something else... pity that.

[struggle4progress]

9. Their major mistake was holding a press conference to announce that anyone could do

on a lab-bench, at ordinary temperatures and pressures, something that so far is really only known to occur at enormously high pressures and temperatures. After the hype died down, essentially no one could reproduce their results -- and the natural conclusion was that it was at least 99.9% flim-flam, if it wasn't total flim-flam

Volume 63, Number 1
PHYSICAL REVIEW LETTERS
3 July 1989
Cold Fusion: How Close Can Deuterium Atoms Come inside Palladium?
Z. Sun and D. Tománek
Department of Physics and Astronomy and Center for Fundamental Materials Research,
Michigan State University, East Lansing, Michigan 48824-1116
(Received 10 May 1989)
We use ab initio density-functional calculations to determine the structural and electronic properties
of deuterium in bulk palladium. The focus of our study is the binding and the nearest-neighbor distance
between D atoms in the very concentrated limit of a hypothetical PdÖ2 crystal. These results are com-
pared to analogous calculations for bulk PdD and Pd. We find that even at very high D concentrations
in the bulk, the equilibrium distance between two D atoms is increased by « 0.2 Â from the gas value of
0.74 Â. This large internuclear distance makes a cold-fusion reaction of deuterium very improbable ...
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:STtW0Fz7MZwJ:www.pa.msu.edu/cmp/csc/eprint/DT037.pdf+cold+fusion+hydropgen+palladium&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

[spin]

3. Big Oil will stop this research or buy it out.. (n/t)

[jimlup]

4. Thanks! This is interesting

I'm glad 60 minutes did a spot on it. It will be interesting to see it develop from here.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

5. You may want to check out what most will call a fraud at

www.blacklightpower.com there is a lot there to take in, especially the technical papers..

[Dead_Parrot]

6. Well, it should be easy to check

If all you're putting in is ²H and Pd, run the end mix through a spectrometer and see what else is in there.

Or would something that obvious break the spell? I note that palladium is already used in hydrogen & deuterium separation, so I would it thought it well known by now if helium was showing up by magic in the finished product.:shrug:

[captainp]

7. Cold Fusion Is Hot Again, 60 Minutes

Quantum tunneling is a statistical possibility in these
palladium experiments. A mole of deuterium absorbed in a Pd
lattice will produce enough collisions for a significant
chance for tunneling to occur. We should be looking for
by-products of proton or neutron capture (silver or other Pd
isotopes). I would point out that two such simultaneous
tunneling events (neutron capture in particular)involving two
Pd atoms next to each other will have the proton equivalent of
U (which may explain the fission by-products reported in some
experiments); and three such simultaneous tunneling events
involving three Pd atoms (this would be rarer but still a
possiblity) might explain some of the non-fission decay path
elements being found. Another investigation might look at
other types of atoms in the solution mix which is delivering
the deuterium becoming involved to produce other resultant
elements.

[AlecBGreen]

8. hi captainp

welcome to DU! :hi: :toast: :party: