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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:30 AM
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Chemtrails, Out Of The Closet?
by Wiliam Thomas
08/17/05

Nearly seven years after extensive “lay downs” of lingering and spreading white plumes were first reported smearing skies over across North America, Europe is in an uproar and Washington could be close to coming clean about chemtrails.

At least the Bush White house will soon have a legitimate weather control agency to finally “launder” one of the biggest cons ever perpetrated.

Introduced in the US Senate on March 1, 2005, Bill S517 calls for a US “Weather Modification Advisory and Research Board” to officially commence operations in October 2005. When passed as expected, this law will make large-scale chemical alteration of the atmosphere legal across a formerly free and beautiful land called America.

It’s already happening

MORE...
http://www.willthomas.net/Convergence/Weekly/Chemtrails.htm
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:02 AM
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1. shit, all you have to do is look up . . . though I must admit that . . .
lately the chemtrail activity here in the lower Hudson Valley seems to be greatly reduced . . . at least for now . . .
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:03 AM
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2. sorry but it's tinfoil...
what's far more important is the release through combustion of aerosols affecting the ozone layer...
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:08 AM
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3. not a big concern of mine
I have to admit I don't buy it. I'll wait for it to show up in an official announcement (though I think those are largely lies anyway).
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:09 AM
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4. This story is total bs
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 02:19 AM by greyl
as far as I can tell. (yes, I'm hedging my bets - my brain is tired)

Bill S517 is from 2002. Search for the bill while filtering "chemtrails".

Nitrogen & Methanol

May 01, 2002

Ethanol producer Archer Daniels Midland, a big Bush campaign supporter, was one of the big winners from the April 25th Senate energy bill S517 (passed by 88 votes to 11).
The bill was passed still containing its provision to phase out MTBE by 2006 and the more controversial measure which eliminates the reformulated gasoline (RFG) oxygen standard. The legislators instead found a new way to push ethanol, with its use in gasoline to rise threefold by 2012 to 5bn gallons (15m tonnes) via a mandated Renewable Fuels Standard (RFS). The oil industry came to a deal with ethanol producers to allow the RFS measure to continue in spite of fears from New York and California that the move would up the price of gasoline in those states by $0.10/gallon and possibly cause shortages due to lack of availability of fuel ethanol. Nevertheless, this looks like the end of the line for MTBE in the US, and therefore the largest single slice of methanol demand in the world. In one small crumb....
http://static.elibrary.com/n/nitrogenampmethanol/may012002/energybillmayfinallykillmtbegasandmethanolnews/index.html



edit: not to mention that "Chemtrails", in current myth, are total bs. When/if the government decides to spray some shit on it's citizens again (as they have in the past), the facts will only be found after clamoring through woowoo tinfoil disinformation.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:57 AM
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5. No, it's a legit bill
Surf to
http://thomas.loc.gov/
and type in "S517" in the text box, with the "Enter bill number" option chosen.

It displays "Weather Modification Research and Technology Transfer Authorization Act of 2005 (Introduced in Senate)".

I read through it, though, and it doesn't seem to be about chemtrails per se. It sets up an advisory board and appropriates $10 million per year through 2014.

--p!
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:02 PM
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6. are bill numbers recycled? nt
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:22 PM
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7. I'm pretty sure they are
The Legislative period runs for two years, the length of a term in the House, so the numbers are probably re-used every two years.

Bills that don't get passed as laws probably either just die, or have to be carried over or continued under different numbers.

Keep in mind, also, that this bill is only indirectly related to the Chemtrail issue. More important than the possibility that people believe something bogus is the fear created by the idea that the stories might be true. Fringe-dwellers of all kinds are often like miners' canaries regarding social change.

--p!
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:34 PM
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8. Huh. Thanks :)

This democracy stuff is complicated. :)
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