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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 01:24 PM Original message |
I read a comment elsewhere that thorium is a alternative to uranium with no downside. Is this true? |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. No, it has lots of downsides, ignore the hype. nt |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. delete duplicate |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. You have to keep your eye on the ball when it comes to nuclear industry claims |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
36. New article in The Guardian: "Don't believe the spin on thorium being a greener nuclear option" |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Don't believe the pro-fossil fuel shills |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. It has the same downside as uranium |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. Did anyone immidiately think of this when they heard "Thorium"? |
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lfairban (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
44. Not really, but . . . |
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Tommy_J (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. Everything has downsides |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yes, it's true. The following is from Wikipedia. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. Thorium is much safer all around. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. How could Thorium be safer? I've been told that Uranium reactors are perfectly safe! |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Your first link mentions Carlo Rubbia - he has become anti-nuclear and pro-solar |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. That is an interesting read. Thanks. nt |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. I'm glad somebody read it! Thanks for taking the time. nt |
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SpoonFed (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Yeah, cool... |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. That Wired article is full of errors |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. That article leaves out an alternative design |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. See post #10 - Carlo Rubbia invented the accelerator-driven reactor, he's now anti-nuclear pro-solar |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. And? |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. It's called a clue-by-four. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. He probably gave up because there are easier ways |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. LFTR's burn up 98.5% of the fuel to create energy - once thu Uranium burns only 5% of its fuel |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
7. Safer is a relative term |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
45. So true. Just like a factory that makes bread or wood products |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
9. Much discussed in the E/E forum. Worth a DU search. |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 02:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. They were all shutdown by the quake |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
11. A lot of people fell for the Pebble Bed Modular Reactor hype, too |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I know very little about the nuke industry and this is the first I heard about thorium |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Not according to MIT - see post 13. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. It is much harder to make nuclear bombs from thorium derived materials. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 02:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Two interpretations are possible regarding not wanting thorium because it isn't as good for bombs. |
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SpoonFed (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Did you read post #21? |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. They've been doing R&D on thorium reactors for many decades and still need a few more decades. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Also, read post #21 above, even if you haven't read the Wired article. nt |
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FranMonet (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
24. video on thorium reactor |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. No it wont. Sorenson has been hyping every type of nuclear no matter what. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. You keep saying that |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. You'll never pry an actual answer from the anti-nuker posters - just Koch brothers BS |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I know, but hope springs eternal |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Excellent summation |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Thorium reactors has their own issues |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. They have their issues |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #24 |
37. New article in The Guardian: "Don't believe the spin on thorium being a greener nuclear option" |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Actinides can be destroyed by neutron bombardment. |
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