Another gun related incident

[oneshooter]

A robber who walked into the Columbia downtown Alcoholics Anonymous center, pulled out a gun and demanded money was killed in a burst of gunfire from an AA visitor’s gun, police said.

“Gimme what you got,” witnesses quoted the robber as saying when he entered the AA building at 2015 College St. in Five Points about 10:48 p.m. Saturday. They said he brandished a .25-caliber handgun.

At that point, as one AA visitor dropped something on the floor — possibly his wallet — another AA visitor pulled out his own pistol and shot the robber “multiple times,” police said.


Columbia police reported that an 18-year-old man who attempted an armed robbery of an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting late Saturday night at the ACOA Club at 2015 College St. in Five Points was shot and killed by someone in the meeting who police say carried a legally concealed handgun.

- Rich Glickstein/[e-mail] /The State



Kayson Helms, 18, of Edison, N.J., was pronounced dead at Palmetto Health Richland at 11:24 p.m. Saturday.

Helms was identified by Richland County Coroner Gary Watts. His office notified the next of kin.

An autopsy Sunday showed bullets hit Helms in the abdomen, chest and neck, Watts said.

The AA visitor who fired his weapon and killed the suspect had a concealed weapons permit, police said.

Police declined to identify the shooter, saying an investigation is under way.

Police said they expect to release more information today after noon.

This is the second time in five weeks that a person with a concealed weapons permit has killed a person in the Midlands.

In early March, an Irmo pizza delivery man shot and killed an attacker who telephoned in a phony order. In that case, pizza man Christopher Miller shot and killed Paul Andrew Sturgill, 17, as Sturgill and three others tried to rob him, police said.

At twilight Sunday, the Columbia AA center, a popular destination in the city’s Five Points area, was deserted. A sign on the front of the low-swung block building read, “No Money Left in Club Overnight.”

http://www.thestate.com/local/story/747998.html


Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

[jeepnstein]

1. Pity.

Anyone who's dropped low enough to start doing armed robberies probably could use a program like AA. He just asked for the wrong thing.

No good really ever comes from these things. A life wasted, someone living with having taken a life, plenty of misery to go around.

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[iverglas]

9. won't be long, folks

3, 2, 1 ...

[jody]

2. I have no words to describe my contempt for Kayson Helms. IMO there will be many more incidents. n/t

[moez]

3. perfect...

[iverglas]

8. man, that was sudden!

Buh byee.

[iverglas]

10. oh, no it wasn't

Thread dredged by bot.

Oh well, gave me a chance for one of those lovely strolls down memory lane!

[jazzcat]

4. Agreed.

Agreed.

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[iverglas]

7. was this thread flagged to attract bots?

How do you do that??


AA meetings, interesting.

Isn't there something on that NICS form about being an alcohol/drug abuser, and thus ineligible to acquire a firearm? I mean, let alone tote one around in public?

Yeah, I'm sure many people at AA meetings have been dry for decades. Damn those relapses.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

13. No I don't think so.

I think the form asks something about being addicted to and/or using illegal or controlled substances. I'm not sure the ATF considers alcohol a "controlled substance". It's pretty obvious the question is geared towards illegal drug use anyways... So I would have ot say an alcoholic gets a pass on a 4473.

I'm not sure... it's been so long since I've actually read one of those forms I could be wrong. I just know how to fil one out:
A) Fill out personal info on drivers license
B) Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no...
C) Gimmie my gun! :)

[proteus_lives]

11. Oh well.

Mr. Helms won't be committing anymore robberies.

[iverglas]

12. and hasn't done lo these three months gone

Kinda like one or two of our friends in this thread.