3 Yr old .........dead ............firearm

[russ1943]

Xavier jumped on the bed, exposing the gun that was underneath a pillow. It is unknown how the gun went off, but Brown said Xavier was holding the gun when he was shot...........The parents of a 3-year-old boy who was shot and killed Sunday may face charges in connection with his death, said Medina County Sheriff Randy Brown.


http://www.ksat.com/news/19168687/detail.html

The boy, 3-year-old, Xavier Ortiz, suffered a gunshot wound to his head. His parents told Medina County deputies that they had told the boy and two or three other children to stay inside the home while they hid Easter eggs outside. They said while they were hiding the eggs, they heard a gunshot.


http://www.woai.com/news/local/story/3-year-old-boy-fatally-shot-as-parents-prepare/LEKadxRyREaWN3AnvJVgUg.cspx?rss=68

[ben_jenne]

1. Shouldn't this be in the stupid fucking

parents forum?

[yay]

2. +1

Never keep a round in the chamber... it only takes a second too rack the slide.

[Hoopla Phil]

33. I use one of these

[onehandle]

3. What about the stories about the oh so rare home intrusion successful defenses with a gun?

Should those be in the stupid fucking lucky bastards forums since you are far, far more likely to kill a family member than even get a shot at an intruder?

[yay]

6. I wouldn't call an estimated 800,000 instances a year oh so rare...

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdguse.html

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

10. Fail, miserably.

[krispos42]

24. Using a gun for self defense rarely requires firing it

After all, cops only justifiably kill 400 people a year. Doesn't mean the cops only stop 400 crimes a year.

[Trajan]

4. Wow ... If someone only had a gun ...

They could have stopped this senseless violence ...

[rl6214]

20. WOW, if someone only had a FUCKING BRAIN

They wouldn't leave a firearm where a child can get to it.

[Hoopla Phil]

34. Homes with guns and children need one of these.

[Yavapai]

5. Don't know how others do it, but

we installed a keyed door-lock on our bedroom where we keep our guns. When our grandchildren visit, we simply lock the door.

We also lock the door when we sleep. Should there be an intruder, he will have broken through two locked doors and subdued our rottweiler before he is in our gun-sights! My wife wants to put ceramic tile where his blood will be, for easy clean-up!

Seemed to be an easy solution...

[Caliman73]

13. Same here

We have a key lock on the bedroom door. I have my rifles locked with cable locks my .45 is always in a locked case unless I am within sight of it. It is a senseless tragedy that can be avoided with minimal effort.

[Hoopla Phil]

35. All my guns are in the safe. My immediate action hand gun goes in this

[pacalo]

7. The thrill of owning a gun apparently superseded the safety of their children. Sad.

[madeline_con]

9. Some people are stupid and shouldn't own them.

[Itchinjim]

14. Unfortunately because of our gun laws, even stupid people are allowed to own guns.

And even more unfortunately, lots and lots of stupid people DO own guns.

[jody]

17. And lots of stupid people vote, attend religious services, post on Internet forums, etc. Perhaps we

should prohibit stupid people?

[Itchinjim]

23. Is there anything in the Constitution that says we can't prohibit them?

We can't prohibit guns, so I say ban the stupid people! Starting with the GOP - and the Teabaggers are first in line. Maybe we can give them all guns and they'll shoot each other in some comically stupid and hopefully fatal manner.

[umccoyw]

29. constitution does protect stupid people too.....

sorry stupid people have a right to life and liberty as well. Also how are we determining stupid people, is it no book smarts or no common sense because for the most part ive noticed people usually only one or the other

[jody]

15. And some people are stupid and shouldn't be allowed to vote. n/t

[yay]

16. Or speak freely

Funny how a lot of people don't believe in religion, but think "survival of the fittest" only applies to animals.

[kudzu22]

43. Many more are too stupid to have kids (n/t)

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

11. Are you so dumb you think safe gun ownership is impossible?

[yay]

12. Sometimes yes

But not always.. dearly looking forward to teaching my niece to shoot.

[rl6214]

21. The thrill?

Fail.

[onehandle]

25. Nothing like the feel of rock hard steel in your hand.

It makes up for the gun owner's shortcomings.

[rl6214]

26. Fail part two

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

27. Don't bring your husbands problems to the gun forum.

[pacalo]

30. Don't you have some fires & medical issues to attend to?

:rofl:

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

36. No I'm off till Tuesday.

I don't blame you for sticking up for your wife though.

David

[pacalo]

37. No problem...

except that I'm a female.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

39. Okay.

I don't blame you for sticking up for your husband/boyfriend.

David

[pacalo]

41. Me, sticking up for my husband?

I don't think so!

:rofl:

He's very self-assured, I promise.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

42. Must be his big gun.

[madeline_con]

8. Who the fuck keeps a gun under their pillow?

What idiots. That's so sad!

[pacalo]

31. Those who think "someone is going to get them" & lacks other thrills in their lives.

This is one thrill that backfired, so to speak.

Apparently, sex & child safety are the last thing on this couples' minds.

[Hoopla Phil]

32. Someone not smart enough to get one of these.

[-..__...]

18. Tragedy, carelessness and stupidity go hand in hand...

and is not confined to firearms ownership.

Tucson Region
As pool use rises, beware 'silent killer' of kids: drowning
By Jamar Younger
ARIZONA DAILY STAR
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 04.13.2009

Drowning is often referred to by fire officials as the "silent killer."
That's because there usually is no cry for help and very little commotion, other than the sound of splashing.
Most child victims were last seen in a safe area away from the swimming pool minutes before they drowned, said Capt. Trish Tracy, a Tucson Fire Department spokeswoman.
There have been at least 15 reported drownings in the Tucson area and more than 40 near-drownings since 2004, according to data provided by local fire departments.
The most recent drowning occurred Sunday afternoon when a 2-year-old girl drowned in her family's above-ground spa in the backyard of her family's home, just south of Tucson Mountain Park.
On March 18, a 3-year-old boy died a day after he was pulled from a swimming pool at a Northwest Side apartment complex.
There was a near-drowning on the Southwest Side the next day, when a 3-year-old girl fell into her family swimming pool.
Following is a list of safety tips, statistics and phone numbers that parents can use to learn more about drowning-prevention and pool safety.

by the numbers
44
Near-drownings reported by Tucson area fire departments since 2004.
15
Drowning deaths reported by local fire departments since 2004.
8
Boys under the age of 5 who drowned.
3
Adult victims, ages 56, 79, and 80.
3
Girls under the age of 5 who drowned.
2
Incidents that did not involve a swimming pool or bathtub. One boy drowned in an ice chest, and another was found in a bucket.
1
Incident in which a child drowned in a bathtub.

http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/288491


Boy rescued from N.J. casino pool

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=6763173

Boy Dies After Nearly Drowning In Pool

http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/19158137/detail.html


2-year-old boy who drowned in pool at Dallas home is identified

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/040509dnmetdrowning.a0ce76c3.html


Toddler found in pool in critical condition

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking-news/story/995355.html

And these were only a few of the more recent ones that occurred in warmer parts of the country.
Pool season in the NE is still 2 months away.


Strange how we don't hear from the handwringers here about these incidents followed by demands of regulation and/or "pool bans" (who the fuck needs a pool anyways?).



http://news.google.com/news?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&num=10&q=drowned+pool&cf=all&start=0

[FunkyLeprechaun]

28. *Sigh*

Yet another one of those arguments. A pool was not designed to kill whereas a gun was designed to kill

[Hoopla Phil]

38. Sigh, the moral relevance of one tragedy over another.

Guess one death is more tragic than another is some people's eyes. Sigh.

[rl6214]

40. It makes no fucking difference

Dead is dead. You want to regulate one form of death, regulate them all.

[kudzu22]

44. You are about 10 million times more likely

to drown in your own pool than you are to drown an intruder in your pool. So why take the risk?

[jmg257]

19. "Missouri 3-year-old drowns in Gilbert pool"

"3-Year-Old Among 8 Victims in Deadly Wreck"

"A 3-year-old Baldwin County boy drowned in a pond"

"3-year-old Girl Dies in Fire, was Home Alone"

Tragic accidents happen to good people, even kids.

Let's hope people try to be more responsible, and do what they can to protect others, their kids, and themselves.

[Hoopla Phil]

22. This is horrible. For under $100.00 you can get a nightstand vault

to put a handgun in. They are not designed to stop theft. They are designed to be a safe secure place to keep your handgun out of kids hands yet be almost immediately accessible. Many are unlocked by a combination touch pad on the top with a spring loaded door.

My wife came into my life with an 8 year old girl. I never really saw a need for me to have one until then. While I'm not in favor of making such a thing mandatory by Federal edict, I think they are imperative if you have children in your house.

[aikoaiko]

45. Please consider giving gun safe/lock boxes as baby shower gifts.

I used to plug this idea more, but hadn't had the opportunity lately to do it. When my shooter friends started having kids, I gave them handgun safe/lock boxes. When couples start having kids, there are lots and lots of bills and its easy to procrastinate on buying a handgun safe.

Good ones start at between $100 - $200 and you can feel really good about giving to a needy family. It will last longer and be more useful than most of the plastic stuff we give new families.

Whether you own guns or not, whether you support the RKBA or not, please consider getting a decent, secure, quick access lock box/safe for gun owning family.

Here is mine and the one I give. Its a classic sturdy box with mechanical push buttons for secure, but quick access.

Here is the stock photo of the AMSEC PB48.


Here is mine with my .357. It sits on top of the piano in the living room.


If you really want to be a hero, give them one of these:

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

46. I've noticed a lot of children suffer at the hands of stupid parents.

Stupid parents that don't use car seats. Stupid parents that have a pool but not a pool alarm. Stupid parents who don't make their kids wear a helmet. Stupid parents who smoke with their kids in the car. And last but not least, stupid parents who leave unsecured loaded guns where kids can find them.