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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:40 PM Original message |
Gunfree Chicago: Two men charged for shooting UPS driver |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. No doubt stolen or purchased from a "responsible gun owner" who will never be punished. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. THAT'S The solution! |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I do believe that baldguys point is, |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. If they neglect to secure their weapons properly, thats exactly what should be done. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Because a criminal that is able to break into a home.... |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. And our increasingly hypothetical "responsible gun owner" wouldn't use such a gun safe. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Such a safe is all our "responsible gun owner" can afford. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. If you can't afford to secure your weapon properly, you can't afford the weapon. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Define "secure properly" please. (nt) |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. You've already done that yourself. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Oh, I stated no such thing! |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Well, if you weren't being sarcastic in your previous post |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Ummm, did you read the post you replied to? |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Then I'll repeat: If you can't afford to secure your weapon properly, you can't afford the weapon. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. A resolute 10-year old... |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Either your safe is adequate, or it's not. It can't be both. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I have done NO such thing, sir. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Really? Your own statements belie your arguments. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Well, given that I'm willing to assume (safely, I might add)... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
38. No baldguy, YOU are the one who is doing that |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Now, you're getting it! |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Actually, you're wrong. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
61. How do you feel about stolen cars? |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. It's adequate enough for California. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
56. No 10 year old is as competent in destroying things as a determined criminal |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
70. Could you define what constitutes a "secure lock box"? |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. Watch this video. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. One of those gun vaults... |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 07:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Meets California DOJ requirements. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. No problem, and thank you... |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Be sure to anchor it to the floor. Many thefts involve taking the locked |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Only 15 minutes to break into it? That doesn't sound very secure |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. The TL-15 rating is 15 minutes for a properly equipped safe cracker that |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Yeah, that's true. |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. You are correct. I think the |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. WOW! Thanks for those videos. Did you notice in the |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
67. Rights should be limited to the upper class then? |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
66. If they didn't have a gun, no need for a safe, no need to break in |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. And everyone who doesn't own guns... |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
65. Sounds good to me. I think I should suggest that to our DA. |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. No doubt. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I don't think... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Been a troll since the beginning no doubt. |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Do you kiss your momma with that mouth?! |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
47. If you've been here since the beginning, why have you never read the rules? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. you are speaking to the person who was called a troll??? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. See post 3. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. "There's an alert button. Use it." |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. The one I responded to |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. So if I look will I see you protesting Shares posts or will I find you to be a hypocrite? |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. Too bad Daley's Body Gaurds where not close by... NT |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
16. and your conclusion / proposal for ameliorating this problem would be? |
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tortoise1956 (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Depends on what problem you're talking about... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. another expert |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. So what's the alternative? Lock everybody up before they can do anything? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Yes, that's it! Lock everybody up! That's the ONLY alternative!! |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. get a fucking grip / give it up |
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FunkyLeprechaun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:12 AM Response to Reply #48 |
64. Ban kitchen knives? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. whaddayou know, eh? |
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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 05:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
34. The solution |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #34 |
68. Rethinking our drug policy |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
49. Find out where they obtained the gun. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. and of course |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I'd sign up for registration, and register every last firearm I own today IF |
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russ1943 (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
32. Better than some less restrictive cities. |
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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 05:41 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Not all of Chicago |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. That nonsense reminds me of the Bush administration justifying Iraq. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. and yours reminds me of what five-year-olds say |
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