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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:11 PM
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Norton Calls on Homeland Security Officials to Restrict Gun Carrying Outside Public Events
http://www.norton.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1264&Itemid=88

Norton Calls on Homeland Security Officials to Restrict Gun Carrying Outside Public Events Where President and Federal Officials Appear in D.C. and Nationwide

August 19, 2009



WASHINGTON, D.C. - Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC), who sits on the Homeland Security Committee, today called on the U.S. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and U.S. Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan to restrict the carrying of weapons openly or concealed in or around the areas where the President of the United States and cabinet officials are appearing, following reports, photos, and videos of people carrying guns outside of an Obama town hall meeting in Arizona earlier this week. Norton said that this restriction is particularly necessary in the nation's capital, where recently filed litigation seeks to overturn D.C. law in order to allow residents and visitors to carry concealed guns in public.

The President, cabinet officials and other top foreign and domestic officials regularly travel in motorcades in the nation's capital. The risks of public shootings, which threaten homeland security, have been minimized by gun laws in the District that restrict both open and concealed gun carrying in public. After a Norton hearing last session that revealed that a similar bill would have allowed the open carrying of weapons in the District, even the National Rifle Association voluntarily withdrew the dangerous provisions.

Norton said that a reported 10 to 12 people were carrying weapons in Arizona on Tuesday in the vicinity of President Obama's appearance. "I seek no change in the local laws of other jurisdictions, and ask only respect for gun laws in my own district," Norton said. "However, it is clear that if the Secret Service can temporarily clear all aircraft from air space when the President is in the vicinity, the agency has the authority to clear guns on the ground that is even closer to the President."

The Congresswoman said that she hopes that increasingly brazen NRA attempts to nationalize its no-holds barred approach to guns has finally gotten the attention of federal authorities. "The NRA's most recent actions show that the NRA intends to go national on the Ensign amendment approach, the amendment attached to the Senate version of the D.C. Voting Rights bill that would abolish all gun laws in the District," Norton said. She cited the recently defeated Thune amendment to permit the carrying of weapons openly as evidence that the NRA is pressing nationwide its view that there should be no local limits on guns in the nation's capital or elsewhere. "The NRA is using the District as a test case because it is uniquely subject to Congressional dictates. Both in the courts and in Congress, beginning with the violation of D.C.'s home rule right to enact its own gun safety laws, the NRA is on a national gun campaign," she said. However, the NRA suffered a surprise setback in the defeat of the Thune amendment to the defense authorization bill, which would have allowed gun owners to carry concealed weapons across state lines, violating restrictions in other jurisdictions. A similar but even more radical section in the Ensign amendment would make a unique exception for the nation's capital to become the only U.S. jurisdiction where people could cross state lines to purchase handguns and bring them back, facilitating gun running by criminals, terrorists or gangs intent on breaching homeland security in the National Capital Region or public peace in neighborhoods.


Another self-appointed expert on VIP security heard from. And let me be the first meanyhead to point out:

Those wonderful DC gun laws didn't stop the last Presidential shooting, did they, Rep. Norton?

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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:14 PM
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1. NOOO, this is what the gun nuts want, to be able to call Obama and the Dems, GUNGRABBERS
dont fall for the trap
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:16 PM
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2. It makes sense to keep weapons away from these gatherings
Why does it take somebody from Congress to point that out? Since when does the Secret Service let gun toters mingle with crowds near the president?
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:50 PM
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6. They don't..
Just because some goober with a gun is split screen with the president doesn't mean the two were ever within shooting distance of each other.
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:52 PM
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8. That is reassuring
But I don't even want 'right-winger with an assault weapon' and 'Obama' in the same damned sentence together!!
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:57 PM
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10. Understood..
The media loves a juicy story, and 'man with a gun near president' is too juicy to NOT run with. Look at all the hullabaloo it caused here at DU!
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 10:25 PM
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15. And yet the sky...
It does not fall.

Oh.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:21 PM
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3. the ss can do what ever they want.....
to secure the area around the president.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:25 PM
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4. Isn't this the same constitutional genius ...
... that encouraged Fenty to fight the Heller lawsuit and cost the residents of DC $3.6 million in legal fees to Gura and the NRA so far. Well shit, it's not like its anything out of her pocket. Now she's decided she's smarter than the Secret Service.

She seems to think that just because she doesn't like something the court rulings shouldn't matter. Typical politician with a woefully inflated sense of self importance.

I'm surprised she was able to speak in public on anything. Didn't she promise us that with the gun laws were changed blood would run in the streets in DC?


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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:34 PM
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5. Can't be...DC doesn't have a congresswoman
Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 08:34 PM by ProgressiveProfessor
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billh58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:54 PM
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9. Correct
Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 09:48 PM by billh58
she is a "non-voting" delegate to the House.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 09:20 PM
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11. Her office does not seem to know that. See the link in the OP
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:52 PM
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7. Err..
Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 09:27 PM by X_Digger
"She cited the recently defeated Thune amendment to permit the carrying of weapons openly" .. Apparently Congresswoman Norton doesn't even know what legislation is potentially passing in congress (the Thune amendment had nothing to do with open carry.)

eta: typo
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 09:43 PM
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12. So you'd rather risk Obama's life, than have any gun worshippers deprived of their dick extensions.
Nice to see the priorities spelled out like that. You are saying that making every effort to keep the President safe is unacceptable if it embarrasses gun fanatics who need their strap on dildos to be visible when they go out in public.


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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 09:54 PM
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13. ...
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 09:54 PM
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14. WOW That didn't take long!!!
And not one but TWO penis references!!!

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 10:29 PM
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16. Maybe K&M will go...
for the (jimmy-)hat-trick...

:rofl:

Whhheeeeeeewhhooow....

Thanks folks, I'm here all week. Please tip your wait staff...
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 10:39 PM
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17. The last Freudian is heard from, and apparently her interwebs machine is broken,
as she is replying to things not said in the OP.

Still, it is useful to have her around, much as the Ulster Republicans found Ian Paisley very useful for recruiting
purposes and so would leave him alone to spout his particular brand of bigotry...
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:29 AM
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19. You really do fantasize about those dick extensions don't you?
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:07 PM
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20. How hard is "not any threat at all" to understand?
Someone dressed in a wizard's robe standing in the same location, waving hands, and chanting incantations, would have represented exactly the same threat to the President as the guy with an unloaded .22 centerfire did at that location---zero. None whatsoever.

The guy was NOT in the secure zone around the President, but some people cannot seem to grasp that. He certainly succeeded in sidetracking the dicussion of health care reform, though; the MSM can't resist a good ZOMG SCAWWY GUNZ! story.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:49 PM
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21. Your constant and intense fascination with other people's penii is interesting
Also probably pathological, in the true sense of the word.

You really should see someone about that. Do you just walk up and ask cops or anyone with a gun to drop their pants for you, or just grab their crotch and estimate the bulk by hand?

How do you deal with the women shooters and cops?

BTW the Secret Service has made it very clear that all of this has nothing to do with the President's safety. But you probably know better.

Start writing and calling the SS now to tell them how worried you are and how threatened you think the POTUS is. Maybe they'll even come come and visit you to discuss your penis theories face to face?

Your posts are becoming increasingly strident and pathetic at once.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 07:05 PM
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22. Some people think about penis ALL the time. Maybe you are frustrated.
There are cures for that.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:27 AM
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18. The Congresswoman isn't very bright.
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