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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:06 PM
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This guy is as dumb as a hemlock stump...
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katzenjammers Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:23 PM
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1. It sure does seem that he is...but then if he had been a cop it would have gotten him a week
paid 'leave' while they 'investigate'.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:59 PM
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3. I think the conventional wisdom
among many in Portland is probably that Portland police wouldn't have been trying to "shoot out the tires." There have been allegations of acceleration to lethal force in inappropriate circumstances.
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katzenjammers Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:02 PM
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8. I didn't mean to specify Portland, although you're surely right...I was a policeman
in a very different U.S. locale many moons ago and saw more than a few examples.
Not saying all cops are bad...but for sure they're not all good either.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:46 PM
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9. Law enforcement seems like it must be
a thankless job at times. Judgment calls one after another, on which might turn life or death. It also carries the baggage of authority and power. Not everyone who has the job will be suited for it. I imagine there's a tendency to sharpen the blurry grays of reality into starker blacks and whites to justify choices that beg clarity. Not the job for me. If I had to do it, I probably would disassociate pretty early on.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:56 PM
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2. Apparently they didn't tell him in CCW class that petty theft is not grounds for
deadly force. What an idiot.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 06:03 PM
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4. I think some of the commentors are of the opinion
that the Portland Police Department has been setting a bad example in the inappropriate use of deadly force. I'm not personally following that issue, however, and have no opinion about that.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 07:37 PM
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7. Unfortunately such examples today are hardly limited to the Portland PD
or any PD for that matter.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 01:14 AM
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11. They likely stole more than 750$ worth of iPhones, so Felony Theft in Oregon
Not Petty Theft.

Still, dumb to shoot at people committing a felony when no lives are in danger.
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 07:06 PM
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5. Well intentioned, but none too smart
The only justification for using lethal force is when you have a reasonable belief that an innocent may be permanently injured or killed if you don't intervene. No amount of iPhones is worth sending high-velocity lead into the environment, especially not when they're new and thus don't contain anyone's personal information yet.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 07:36 PM
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6. Even I, a gun "hater", cannot make the claim that this is a likely consequence
of carrying a weapon; it's just unbelievable rash ignorance and stupidity.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:52 PM
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10. What an idiot.
Throw the book at him.
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