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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 10:52 AM Original message |
Why hasn't the NRA freaked out about Open Carry bans? |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. Open carry is still a relatively new issue. |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I thought open carry was legal before concealed in most places. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Wrong. |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I know in missouri you could carry a gun in parts of the state in a holster. Before CCW. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. 'some' states would be accurate. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. NV is |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 08:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
40. Not true if you go back far enough. |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. In Texas, IIRC, before CCW you could Open Carry |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Which really isn't open carry per se. |
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Pullo (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. The NRA isn't often the trailblazer within the gun rights movement |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Thanks! |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Being an Atheist you should have loved the NRA using "God" as much as anyone. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Being an intelligent, tool using mammal |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
39. Actually it is RIGHT (surprisingly given the source). |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. The laws vary from state to state. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. Why don't you ask the NRA? |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I did and they did not respond. You a little touchy today? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I could venture a guess, I suppose. |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
11. I have imagines of open carry on |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
32. I could conceal a Ruger LCP and nobody on a crowded subway would know. |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
12. Becaused many people react |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Because Civil Rights shouldn't require a burkha. n/t |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. Is having sex with your wife a civil right? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Only if she consents without threat or intimidation. |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 08:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. I suggest you and others |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
72. THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. If you're about to suggest we should be able to fuck in public... |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 08:16 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. That would be infringing on |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. No, you're pretty much completely wrong. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #53 |
61. "Assault weapons" are in fact sporting arms |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
41. "My opinion is if you can CCW why Carry Open?" |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
15. Because the NRA being lobbying organization for the arms industry doesn't care HOW one carries |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Amen to that. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. My brother once said that NRA membership was defacto registration. nt |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. So is a concealed carry permit. (n/t) |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 03:21 AM Response to Reply #15 |
51. BULLCRAP. The NRA is not supported by gun manufacturers. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. SAAMI? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. SAAMI doesn't lobby. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
70. NSSF is the lobbying arm of the mfgs. |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Rationalize your fear anyway you want to |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I am already a senior citizen, drawing SS. So you need to be pretty damn old. |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
16. Hummm. There's that 90% number being thrown out again. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
42. Must only have two numbers in Kansas. the niner and the zero. |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
17. You can open carry in CT but the caveat is......... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Because Civil Rights should be limited by bigoted paranoids. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. This "upsetting" notion is a poor way to arbitrate a civil right... |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 10:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. In our permit class, the instructor who works for the state police,.. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. This is one reason why open carry is good. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
19. Your 'common wisdom' seems to be consistently wrong. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. "if you'd wipe out all the preconceptions you appear to have and do some actual research" |
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gravity556 (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. AZ has always been open carry friendly. |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. You and I could read the same stats and come to totally different conclusions...... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Stay with it. You'll see the light. nt |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Funny, same thing my GOP friends tell me. That says a lot. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Well, culture war does stink. "Liberals" are so-o-o majorly bad at it. nt |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. That's just it.. you don't have any stats to back up some of these inane assertions. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
31. Other things take higher priority. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
36. Texas lost "open carry" after Mr. Lincolns War. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
43. NRA is rarely takes big chances. |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
44. The NRA is a moderate corporate tool |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-09-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. They also contribute 100.00% of money to Republicans. n/t |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
65. BULLCRAP. They send about 78%. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Please read before your CRAP. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Sorry. I thought you were refering to the NRA. N/T |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 03:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. No problem. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
54. In may states, it IS legal, sorta. |
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MisterBill45 (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
58. Because open carry is far from accepted even among CCW licensees |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I know we've disagreed on this before... |
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MisterBill45 (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. You can't progress faster than the people can keep up |
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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. I find those arguments to be illogical. |
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MisterBill45 (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. I'm not partisan enough on the issue |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. "where it's technically legal and watch how fast you lose your firearms rights" |
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MisterBill45 (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. It is tyranny |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Why don't cops conceal carry if it is tactically superior? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. People who carry concealed in Florida often carry "mouse guns" ... |
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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
64. I've noticed that, too. |
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