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russ1943 (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 11:15 PM Original message |
STAND UR GROUND, MAKE MY DAY LAW 5TH YEAR ANN. |
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Tunkamerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. must be a statistical anomaly |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm guessing that without the law, they still would have had the spike in violence. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. -1. You've conflated murder with justifiable homicide |
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russ1943 (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 01:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I've not conflated. |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. Guns are not the problem |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. If I'm in my home and someone breaks in |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. The only way to conclusively PROVE you were in mortal danger |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. So the innocent victim of an unprovoked attack has the |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. "Stand Your Ground" doesn't absolve you of showing you were in reasonable fear of injury |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
6. I'm still in favor of the stand your ground law and wish my |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Most castle laws violate the 7th Amendment. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 04:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Well excuse me if I think a criminal or his family have no right to sue me |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 05:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. So, you think that criminals who break into peoples houses.... |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 07:09 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Seriously |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. In Texas if you are found to be.. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. "Just because a prosecutor says something, it does not make it true." |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I'm sure prosecuting attorneys everywhere also derided Miranda and the exclusionary rule. |
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lepus (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-27-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
27. OJ was the classic case of the LAPD trying to frame a guilty man. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. They actually can sue.. it's just a civil immunity. Technically not violative of the 7th. n/t |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. I think you need to read what the 7th Amendment actually says |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
13. Just think of how much higher the murder rate would be without the Stand Your Ground law |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
21. Given that you think gun laws determine the murder rate, to avoid being a hypocrite |
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russ1943 (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. You read minds? You're not very good at it. |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. So what you are saying is |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 01:23 AM Response to Reply #24 |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Sorry, I know how antis think and I know how excited you get when |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
23. It appears some terms need to clarified (e.g. "Stand Your Ground" is not "Make My Day") |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-28-10 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
28. hmm..the actual numbers are statistically irrelevant |
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russ1943 (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-31-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. U post rates, then call the numbers irrelevant and static, My post included both numbers and rates. |
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