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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:54 PM
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Constitutional Concealed Carry Coming Soon To Wisconsin
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 12:58 PM by spin




Wisconsin --(Ammoland.com)- Constitutional Carry continues to pick up steam in Wisconsin.

There is senior leadership in both the Wisconsin Senate and Assembly who are advocating, and will be introducing legislation to repeal 941.23 and 167.31 (and clean up some of the other laws that infringe on the right to carry in Wisconsin) to bring true right to carry; “Constitutional Carry”, to law-abiding citizens of Wisconsin.

No permit taxes, no government registration, no expensive government training mandates.

Based on the information I have, I genuinely believe that “Constitutional Carry” has the inside track to pass in Wisconsin this spring.
http://www.ammoland.com/2010/12/06/constitutional-concealed-carry-coming-soon-to-wisconsin/



Wisconsin Carry, Inc
Legislative Initiative-
“Constitutional Carry”


The fall elections of 2010 have resulted in an ideal legislative environment for gun rights in Wisconsin for
the 2011 session. A Republican controlled state senate, assembly, and Republican governor means that
Wisconsin WILL pass concealed carry legislation. With concealed carry legislation a virtual certainty, the
debate will instead be centered around what kind of concealed carry legislation will be passed. The 2 options
for concealed carry will be “shall-issue” or “constitutional carry”.

Option 1: “Shall-issue” means that you apply for a permit from the government and if you meet the
requirements set forth, they must issue you a permit that is valid for a specified period of time. There are 39
“shall-issue” states. The requirements to obtain a permit vary widely (registration, permit taxes, mandatory
government training, fingerprinting).

***snip***

Option 2: Constitutional Carry means that law-abiding citizens not legally prohibited from owning a
firearm do not have to obtain a government permit to legally conceal carry. No expensive permit taxes, no
expensive renewal taxes, no government registration, no expensive mandatory training classes, no
fingerprinting. 3 states currently respect Constitutional Carry (Arizona, Alaska, and Vermont) with TX and
UT soon to follow. With shall-issue being the ‘minimum’ Wisconsin will pass in the next legislative
session, Wisconsin Carry, on behalf of our thousands of members statewide is advocating the Wisconsin
legislature pass Constitutional Carry for the following reasons:

-A law abiding citizen shouldn’t have to pay hundreds of dollars for permit taxes, and mandatory
government training to exercise a fundamental constitutional right. The prohibitive expense will suppress the
right to carry of many.

-There is no legitimate reason to require mandatory training. Pennsylvania, Washington, Georgia combined
have well over 1 million permit holders. None had to get mandatory training. There are NO problems as a
result. Florida and Virginia which have only the most basic of training requirements (Hunter Safety
certificate from middle school/online video and short test) have almost 1 million permit holders between
them. NO problems result from no mandatory training. Most gun owners already have extensive training and
experience. Others will surely seek voluntary training. Mandatory training being a necessity for public
safety is yet ANOTHER GUN MYTH perpetuated by those who seek to infringe on the right to carry
OR those who stand to gain financially by a mandatory government training requirement.
http://www.wisconsincarry.org/pdf/WCI_constitutional_carry.pdf


Wisconsin is one of only two states that completely prohibits anyone but police officers and sheriffs' deputies from carrying concealed weapons for self defense.



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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 01:13 PM
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1. Yikes.....
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 01:55 PM
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2. Are you planning to join fellow DUer LanternWaste in boycotting the state of Wisconsin?
There aren't many places left where he feels safe.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 02:36 PM
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4. Constitutional Rights make you say "yikes"? Why?
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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 05:56 PM
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6. You wouldn't be saying "Yikes" if you were informed

w/regard to the extremely low incidence of misbehavior of those with concealed carry permits. Here you go -- courtesy of our friend X_Digger:

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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 02:30 PM
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3. Time for Wisconsin to join modern America.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 02:36 PM
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5. Nice!
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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 06:02 PM
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7. Nice *indeed*!!!

The sooner gun "control" is destroyed as a wedge issue that the R's use against us ---- the better.

And of course I'm happy that citizens of Wisconsin will receive the benefit of an important addition to their civil rights.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:00 AM
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8. This will be an excellent experiment
The people of Wisconsin are about to go from one extreme to another, so we will have a ringside seat on the effects of handgun-law liberalization.


I can foresee five scenarios:

1) Statistically speaking, there is no noticable difference after CCW becomes the law of the land.

2) The violent crime rate ticks steadily upwards out of proportion to neighboring states until reaching a new plateau of equilibrium.

3) The violent crime rate jumps for several years until reaching a new equilibrium.

4) The violent criem rate drops for several years until reaching a new equilibrium.

5) The violent crime rate ticks steadily downwards out of proportion to neighboring states until reaching a new equilibrium.



I'm betting on #1.
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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:00 AM
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9. I'm betting on #1 as well.

File this in the lengthening loss column for the Brady Bunch.
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