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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:08 PM
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How to put a dent in gun trafficking ...

LAPD & ATF Investigation Into Illegal Gun sales Leads to Indictments on Federal Weapons Charges
Wednesday, December 8th, 2010 at 9:15 AM

LOS ANGELES, CA--(Ammoland.com)- Federal and local authorities this morning arrested five defendants who were named by a federal grand jury in a 19—count indictment that alleges illegal firearms sales and drug trafficking offenses.

Two of the nine defendants named in the indictment were already in state custody, and authorities continue to search for one fugitive. An investigation is continuing into the identity of the ninth defendant named in the indictment.

The indictment, which was returned on September 28, outlines a series of firearms transactions in which guns — including machine guns, sawed—off shotguns and assault rifles — were sold to undercover operatives from April 2009 through June 2010.

During this morning’s operation, ATF agents and LAPD officers seized 12 firearms, including seven handguns and one machine gun, and at least five pounds of marijuana. With this morning’s seizures, this investigation has resulted in a total of 35 firearms being taken off the streets.
http://www.ammoland.com/2010/12/08/atf-investigation-into-illegal-gun-sales-leads-to-federal-weapons-charges/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ammoland+%2861ffb374343f478282bbe79718ff21ea%29


Proactive law enforcement always trumps gun bans or draconian restrictions on honest gun owners. It's not cheap, but it works.

Future gun control efforts should focus on criminals, criminal gangs and those who participate in the black market for illegal firearms.

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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:28 PM
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1. Just to clarify. None of those illegal purchases were made at gun shows?
Just wanting to be sure.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:42 PM
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2. The FBI's own data shows that "gun show" sales of crime related firearms are
so small as to be insignificant. The "gun show loophole" is nonsense.
The problem is simple - many courts routinely drop gun charges as part of plea bargain deals - they are relatively minor. Check the article and see the length of sentence for the gun posession charges versus that for the drug charges...drugs will get you many more years than having an illegal gun and the gun charges are often used as bargaining chips.


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timo Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 12:50 PM
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9. uhhhhh
the 5 pounds of weed was (kidding)
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:51 PM
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3. From Machine guns
To a machine gun in the very next sentence . Did some inadvertently slip through their grasp ?
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 06:16 PM
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4. Machine guns
I never believe it when I read that they've seized a machine gun.

12 whole guns , now that's a dent in gun trafficing
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 06:47 PM
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5. Twelve guns is a start and more effective than a gun ban ...
like the assault weapons ban that accomplished absolutely nothing and in fact made semi-auto high capacity weapons far more popular than they would have been without the ban.

Before the ban "black rifles" were a curiosity. Now they are very common and sell like hotcakes cooked in bear grease or pork lard.
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 06:49 PM
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6. Can't argue w/ you there NT
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 08:33 AM
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7. I got a banner idea
Not bad for 17 months work ! LOL

Here's my maniacal plan .

Quit harassing FFL's over punctuation and spend a little bit of that money harassing more people that shoot back . I qualified that with "a little bit" as I can compromise , they can use the rest to book the whole fifth floor into the Belagio again for SHOT . See , it will be "free" this time .

The remainder can be used to stake out multiple somebody elses , each - FOR A YEAR AND A HALF- and then nab them with another dozen guns , and create a couple more of these untouchable snitches . This will also help support the one gun per month meme .

See ,that's what you call innovative thinking , the kind of resolute mindset that is driving our national economic recovery .
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 10:19 AM
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8. Gun control can make it more difficult to bust the bad guys
What could have tipped the authorities into investigating? Purhaps many gun purchases per month by one individual. Limit it to one gun per month and you push the bad guys into turning to gun theft which is difficult to track.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:49 PM
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10. Interesting point and a good one. (n/t)
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