Official: Man killed robbery is 'potential suspect' in shooting spree along Ill.-Ind. border

[DonP]

This took place a block from our office. The guy that got shot is a suspect in a series of murders and shootings along the Indiana/Illinois border over the last two months. Here in Illinois (site of the Lane Bryant executions, Browns Chicken massacre, Burger King murders, NIU Massacre, etc.) I guess your your best hope is that the criminal sets his gun down, while tying you all up prior to executing everyone and someone grabs it and shoots him.

Boy, it's a good thing it's not easy to get a gun in Illinois or imagine the carnage that would ensure if the law abiding were able to actually shoot back like this guy did. My guess is Daley won't comment on this any more than he does on any other case where the good guy wins. It doesn't fit his meme.

Official: Man killed robbery is 'potential suspect' in shooting spree along Ill.-Ind. border

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/sns-ap-il--ruralshootingspree,0,4900779.story

December 12, 2010 8:44 PM

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Amaya entered the tanning salon, announced the robbery and pointed a gun at the employee, police said. Amaya ordered the employee to tie her hands and feet with rope he had brought, police said. Minutes later, a male customer came for his appointment. Amaya changed his target and aimed his gun at the new customer, then ordered him to tie his hands together, police said.

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For reasons that remain unclear, the customer was able to grab the gun, which prompted Amaya to move aggressively toward the customer, police said. That's when the customer shot Amaya, hitting him twice, authorities said. Amaya was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, where he died at 7:30 p.m., police said.

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The incident was captured by a surveillance camera, police said. The male customer, whom police would not name, was released without charges. Keating said the man wants to remain anonymous. "You wouldn't think of a (shooting) in a tanning salon -- in Orland Park," Insalaco said.

[Drale]

1. I know someone who works at that LA tan

and she said that because there is an investigation going on, the police warned all the employees not to talk about the incident.

[Historic NY]

2. followup story relating to honeybee shootings

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/12/sources-fatal-robbery-may-be-linked-to-honeybee-shootings.html?obref=obnetwork

[Glassunion]

3. So... By a stretch... Is this someone stopping a mass shooting? Just asking...

[DonP]

4. Update: Ballistics confirms the gun was the murder weapon in Honeybee killings

Last night they had a report that said police ballistic tests confirmed that the weapon (a 38 special revolver) used in the Orland Park LA Tanning attempted robbery, was also the weapon used in the "Honeybee" shootings and murders over the last few months.

They also had an interview with the man that picked up the gun when the shooter set it down and wound up wrestling with him, finally shooting him twice and killing him. The hero said he realized his only chance was to rush him when he set the gun down to tie up one of the girls in the shop. He grabbed the gun off a counter and wrestled with the criminal, hit him in the head with the gun once and shot him when he kept coming at him.

The criminal was in the process of tying up everyone in the shop when the man walked in. This whole event sounds much more like a planned execution than a random robbery. Why would anyone go to a tanning salon in a strip mall, in December, in a blizzard if you were just looking for money anyway? I wonder if they are going to test it against the Lane Bryant shootings and other unsolved crimes in the area too?

[friendly_iconoclast]

5. And yet, some *still* refuse to admit there are people like Amaya out there:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=350571&mesg_id=350642


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=350571&mesg_id=350755

[spin]

6. It would have been easier for the customer to use his own gun ...

to stop the robber once he laid his weapon down and shoot him if he attempted to retrieve his weapon.

But then, Illinois is one of two states that doesn't allow any method of carrying a weapon in public.

[DonP]

7. I've been assured by "knowledgeable" posters that you'd have to be totally paranoid ...

... to carry a gun into a (fill in the blank) office, parking lot, post office, church, grocery store, etc..

I guess now we all have to add "Tanning Salon" to the list of silly places someone might want to carry a gun.

On the other hand, think of what a really cool pattern it would leave on your hip when you got up from the tanning bed with something like a Colt SAA?

[spin]

8. One time I considered getting a S&W revolver tattoo...

fortunately I sobered up.