My wingnut, Limbaugh-groupie BIL just went out and bought four guns:

[wtmusic]

two pistols and a rifle for himself, one pistol for his son. He's applied for a CCW permit. Oh, and he hasn't shot a gun in his life.

My conversation with my other BIL, who shoots all the time:

"Why did he buy them? Do you go shooting with him?"

"No, he just wants to have them."

"Does he want them for security?"

"No...he just wants to exercise his 2nd Amendment rights."

BIL #1 tends to kneejerk on anything that smacks of liberalism, so here is my take: Rush said one day that The Liberals are coming to take your guns and he was unprepared - he didn't have any to take.

I had a devilish urge to send him an email warning of Obama's proposed ban on kumquats, and see if he heads for the grocery store. But in the name of family harmony, I resisted it. :D

[hlthe2b]

1. Uggh... last thing I'd want to hear...

is that some RW relative had developed a recent gun fetish. :shrug:

[earthside]

2. Reactionary, uh?

Well, I'm pro-Second Amendment ... but I never have felt compelled to own an arsenal of weapons to prove it.

But, yes, it's more about irrational reactions to "liberals".

By the way, here's a suggestion to add to your sig line: keeping a medium-sized dog has the same ecological impact as driving a Land Cruiser 6,200 miles a year.

[wtmusic]

4. Re: the dog

Not doubting you, that sounds plausible.

Do you have a link?

[earthside]

7. "Time to Eat the Dog?"

http://www.pawnation.com/2009/10/22/time-to-eat-the-dog-just-think-about-it-say-sustainable-livin/

The impact of people keeping pets has been somewhat interesting to me for awhile ... since I noticed that where I once saw folks walking one dog a few years ago, I now see people walking two or three or four dogs!

Typically American, it seems to me ... we always have to have more, more more, regardless of the economic or environmental consequences.

Ha! Just like the guy buying FOUR guns to prove his point.

[wtmusic]

8. Thank you

We have one dog, and I am chagrined to see how big the impact actually is. The only thing I can say in our defense is that he was a rescue.

[RSillsbee]

43. Not good enough

Please report back to us when the dog is dead. It's for the children

[jwirr]

16. My Sadie is much too little to eat. She only weighs about 2 1/2 pounds,

I need to find something else for an emergency. :evilgrin:

[earthside]

20. LOL! n/t

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

18. Yet another way in which I'm green.

No car. No pets. Fluorescent light bulbs. My carbon footprint in probably quite low for Western industrialized standards.

[ZombieHorde]

5. I am pro-2nd Amendment, and I do not own any firearms. nt

[Motown_Johnny]

10. I'd love to see you recycle land cruiser waste

where did you get that stat from?

can I see a link please?

[madokie]

22. I'm a second amendment supporter too

even though I don't own any weapons. As a kid I loved guns but after Vietnam I've never wanted another one. I owned a gun for a few days years ago but it felt so weird in my hands that I gave it to a friend of mine.

[donco]

25. Same here

the only weapons I have were inherited from my father and grandfather, mostly junk or collectors items. The ten-gauge shotgun looks like it would be capable of shooting around a corner. One would have to have a suicide wish to shoot it though.

[xchrom]

3. Recommend

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. Could lead to...

"....in case of an erection lasting over four hours, ...."

:rofl:

[muntrv]

9. I'd like to see Obama sign a law banning the consumption of

human excrement for hygenic and safety purposes. I'd like to see if the righties react with the usual "Obama is takin' away our freedoms" and thus protest accordingly.

[badtoworse]

104. LOL!

[glinda]

11. Sending my sincerest sympathies.

[cherish44]

12. Always say Obama's gonna take your guns then he's gonna make sweet love to your wife

That pisses them off

[wtmusic]

13. .

:rofl:

"And when he's done with her, he's gonna make sweet love to you..."

:scared:

[Bluzmann57]

14. Wish I had enough money to do that.

Guns aren't exactaly cheap. And he bought four of them for no apparent reason? Must have a few bucks stashed away. And not much sense.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

15. I own some guns "just to own them"...

I've never hunted anything and I guess one gun is plenty for home defense.

Most of the rest, I own them "just because" or for enjoyment.
Nothing wrong with that.

[quaker bill]

21. I own no guns "just to not own them"

I get a certain joy out of not owning one and a even bit more joy out of fully intending to never own one. Nothing worng with that either.

[DonP]

26. Yeah, I feel the same way about Ferraris

Don't own one, never plan to own one, but it gives me great pleasure and joy and makes me feel superior to all those slobs that do actually own one.

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[Ilsa]

19. Did he remember to buy ammo? Is he going to take

Lessons to learn what he is doing so he doesn't accidentally kill his family? Isn't that required for most gun permits?

[Statistical]

23. Yeah most CCW require some sort of training. How much and what type depends on the state.

Still anyone buying a gun should plan on putting couple hundred (if not couple thousand) rounds down rage.

A gun in the hands of an unskilled homeowner is slightly less useful than a condom in the hands of a nun.

[Ilsa]

24. LOL!! But significantly more dangerous, unfortunately. nt

[TalkingDog]

29. Funnier than what I said, but effectively the same thing. n/t

[safeinOhio]

38. I took my Ohio CCW class

with a lady that had never owned, shot or held a handgun in her life. Hubby talked her into it. Turned out to be very good at the range with instructors old cowboy single action. Passed the shooting part with ease. Of course hitting a 3 foot target from 30 feet ain't hard and going over every question on the test just before taking it makes that part hard to fail. In Michigan, it was an open book test.

I have guns, but I don't live and die guns and gun rights. Too many important issues way ahead of those. I know a couple of ladies that knit. They live and die knitting, remind me of some gun folks. Everyone is entitled to their thing, just don't get pissed when most people could care less about listening about it.

[littlewolf]

32. Lessons are only required on a CCW ...

If he bought a "long gun" ie rifle or shotgun .. IMHO a shotgun is
a very good home defense weapon ... but lessons are not required ...
( I would love to get my hands on some taser shotgun rounds ...)
that would be great home defense ammo ...

[oneshooter]

36. " taser shotgun rounds " Do you have a link? n/t

[Statistical]

39. Only available for law enforcement and military

http://www.taser.com/products/law/Pages/TASERXREP.aspx



Personlly I find real shotgun rounds work just fine. Unlike Police I doubt I will be in a situation that calls for less than lethal engagement. If someone breaks into my home, they will get shot. If they live thats fine. If they die, well that was their choice.

Free PSA to all would be burglars: Breaking into homes can be dangerous to your health.

[littlewolf]

41. some state laws make you the criminal ....

in NC you can shoot if they are in the process of breaking in ... once in you have to prove they intended to harm you ....

[Statistical]

44. Yeah I should have added the caveat that self defense law varies significantly from state to state.

[RSillsbee]

46. You're right

but they would be sooooooo awesome to have

I am not going to waste my time w/ the sarcasm thingy here

[RSillsbee]

45. In most states no permit is required to own a gun

Of the states that require a permit for concealed carry of a weapon ( Vermont, Alaska and Arizona do not require a permit of any kind) only about half of them have a training requirement for a permit to be issued. In may states a Hunter's Safety course will fulfill the training requirement.

In my case all I had to do was present a DD214 less than 10 years old and pay 55 bucks.

[Katya Mullethov]

27. Kick and rec !!

Shout it from the rooftops , everyone must know !

[TalkingDog]

28. That is a tragic accident waiting to happen.

My mother owned a gun. My aunt owned guns and often used them for hunting or slaughtering livestock. My grandfather owned a gun. I grew up with a healthy (ass-smacked) respect for other people's guns. I learned to clean, fire and load a hand gun in my teens.

I did not own a gun until my mother died and I took possession of her 12 gauge and her handgun.

I immediately went target shooting to determine how accurate the sighting was and the action of the weapon.

After that I took the handgun in for service, because the sights were off quite a bit. If I had to use it in self defense, I would have been able to hit an intruder, but not where I wanted to.

Sometime soon I'm going to take my husband out and run him through the drill, and a few days later, I'll do it again until I'm satisfied that he understands how to load, unload and fire the weapon safely ; because owning a gun is a responsibility. Owning a gun is not like owning a refrigerator. You can't just plug it in a expect it to work.

Your BIL is criminally neglectful in giving his son a pistol without having someone teach him gun safety.

I hope this does not go horribly wrong.

[wtmusic]

30. In truth I don't know that he and his son aren't getting training

As other posters have noted it's required for CCW in some states.

But anyone buying lots of guns for no apparent reason is cause for some concern.

[TalkingDog]

31. In NC I can pretty much buy my weight in guns with only an ID

and a background check.

If I want to carry concealed, however, I do need to take a class in order to get a registration.

Maybe you could get your nephew some lessons if dad falls down on the job.

[wtmusic]

33. Good idea, I will find out. nt

[RSillsbee]

47. Buying lots of guns for no apparent reason is cause for some concern.

Why ? It's his money, he's not doing anything illegal w/ it I've bought four guns in one day before for "no apparent reason" other than I wanted to.

I'm going to guess there's more to the story here

[wtmusic]

48. I would guess you intended to shoot them. nt

[benEzra]

75. Undoubtedly. That's what I mostly use mine for.

Americans expend around nine billion (yes, with a "b") rounds of ammunition annually at shooting ranges, lawfully and responsibly, with a safety record superior to golf.

Someone with ill intent only needs one, or at the most two, guns. Four generally says either "investment" or "hedge against future manufacturing bans", IMO. I'm guessing the latter.

[RSillsbee]

77. I have a couple of guns that I don't fire that often

but no out and out safe queens.

[oneshooter]

89. I have quite a few "safe queens" mostly

1700's muskets and pistols, Kentucky Longrifles, and damascus shotguns. I believe that they are shootable, but do not wish to hazard the damage to the weapon, and myself if they are fired. Besides they are much to valuable to risk damaging, from $2000 to $6000 dollars each. There are some excellent reproductions that are quite reasonably priced that I use as shooters.
Out of 200+ pieces in my collection approximately 70 are shooters and 10 are shot weekly or monthly.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[cleanhippie]

86. Well, to be fair, he does have a reason...

he already told you what it is, you just don't like that reason.

[TalkingDog]

90. delete

wrong place

[Straw Man]

34. Training

Your BIL is criminally neglectful in giving his son a pistol without having someone teach him gun safety.

Do you have any reason to believe he isn't seeking training?

[TalkingDog]

91. If you'll read the OP's follow up to my post

You'll see that he is unsure about this point.

So, no. I personally do not know if he is receiving training. But my "read" on people who do anything that dramatic out of some sense of "rebellion" have a tendency to think they know everything.

No facts, just past experience.

[Straw Man]

101. Yes, I read that...

...and am aware that both you and the OP really have no idea about what this man's intentions are regarding training. Given that, don't you think you were a trifle hasty with your accusations of criminal negligence?

Your "read" on people may be very accurate. Or not -- I really don't know. But I'm glad that it's not the basis of our criminal justice system.

[cleanhippie]

85. It is?

While on the surface, your assertion sounds plausible for emotional reasons, can you provide any hard data that would support that in reality?

[TalkingDog]

92. If you want to research studies on gun safety, gun accidents

in correlation with (or without gun training) there are plenty out there. I've read a few of them.

Not doing your work for you. It's called: The Internet and it's open to everybody who wants to use it to research just about any subject.

[cleanhippie]

93. So your answer is "no, I will not support my assertion with factual data." Got it, thanks.

You made a claim and its on you to support that claim, otherwise its just your unfounded, anecdotal, emotional opinion, and will be treated as such.

this is not a put down on YOU, TD, so please don't take it that way, but supporting your claims is how the argument/debate process works. Anything less is just verbal masturbation.

[Euromutt]

35. There is a take that, unlike yours, doesn't entirely rely on a straw man

<H>ere is my take: Rush said one day that The Liberals are coming to take your guns and he was unprepared - he didn't have any to take.

There has not, lately, been any realistically held fear "the Liberals are coming to take your guns." That phrase has generally been shorthand for "the anti-gun crowd wants to take away your ability to acquire certain types of firearms, but they'll almost certainly 'grandfather' in the ones you already possess, so if you don't have any yet but have a desire in the abstract to ever own one, get 'em while you still can."
And that wasn't an entirely unreasonable fear in 2008, given that the leading Democratic candidates for the presidency, including the eventual front runner, espoused a desire to do exactly that. But over the past two years, we've seen that the Democratic party leadership in both Congress and the White House has in effect acknowledged that it would cost them more political capital to even try such a thing than they could afford.

What I suspect may have prompted your BiL to buy a brace of firearms now (well after the panic buying of 2008-2009 has ended) is the fear that the current "lame duck" but still Democratic-dominated Congress might try to push through a renewed ban on so-called "assault weapons" before the Republican representatives-elect and senators-elect take their seats. Such a belief, however, in my opinion, rests on a severe underestimation of the Democratic party leadership's political acumen; given the lessons of 1994, there would be no more certain way for the Democratic party to squander any hopes of retaking Congress for the next six years at least, and the Democrats know it.

[oneshooter]

37. Then they need to remove the assault rifle ban from the platform. n/t

[Statistical]

40. +1. The "scary black gun" ban has been an utter failure in every possible respect. n/t

[wtmusic]

50. That doesn't explain why he would want to own them at all. nt

[Atypical Liberal]

61. Who needs a reason?

Lots of people collect things for a hobby. Who needs a reason?

[wtmusic]

64. Hmm, I really need a hobby. Stamps? Coins? Model trains? I know...Guns!

:crazy:

[Atypical Liberal]

65. Why not?

I collect guns. To me, collecting stamps or coins or trains is no different. Firearms are inherently functional, useful items, they hold value well, and can be readily sold for cash or traded for goods or services if needed. They are fascinating examples of engineering, machining, and artistry. They can also be historical artifacts.

[spin]

73. I know plenty of gun collectors ...

If you know what you are doing, you can make a fortune investing in firearms.

I once had a chance in 1972 to buy two .44 Automag handguns with sequential serial numbers brand new from a dealer. Had I been able to convince my wife at the time to allow me to spend our savings and I never shot either of these firearms, they would have been a good investment for my retirement. Only 3000 were made. I could have bought both for less than $400.

Once you fire a handgun, it loses much of its collector value.

All my handguns are shooters not safe queens, but I do know people who have gun collections worth a small fortune.

[cleanhippie]

87. SO what you are saying is, that anyone that does not share YOUR interests is obviously nuts?

[benEzra]

76. Same reason(s) the other 80 million of us own them.

Defensive purposes, recreational target shooting, and (for a few) hunting.

[Euromutt]

84. There's nothing more likely to make you want something than being told you can't have it

Or even the prospect of not being able to have it at some future date. Personally, I'd find it far less vexing not being able to smoke in airports if the PA system didn't remind me every five minutes that I'm not allowed to smoke. It's the same principle as "don't think of a pink elephant."

[SteveM]

98. Does he need to explain? What bothers you about his purchases?

The violent crime rate is down, continuing a trend set in the mid 1990s. This, while the number of guns in civilian hands has risen by over 100,000,000.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

42. Good for him!

As far as guns and ammo are concerned:
Buy it cheap. Stack it deep.

[wtmusic]

49. Why?

[PavePusher]

51. Why buy anything in bulk and/or when prices are low?

Many people buy food items in bulk because it's cheaper. My parents used to get flour, rice, sugar, whole grains, etc, by the 100-lb. bag.

I currently buy ammo in 500-1000 round cases, whenever I can afford it. it often save me 10-40% of the cost of buying by the individual 20/50/100 round box.

Just one of many reasons.

[wtmusic]

53. So when anything is cheap, we should go out and buy it?

Until now, he's never shot a round in his life. Price is not a motivation here.

[RSillsbee]

80. I like to shoot

Ammunition is a durable item. I remember training w/ rounds that were packaged in the early 70s when I went through basic in 1988. Certain types of ammunition are still hard to come by (.380) and it will never be cheaper.

If I could lay in 15K per weapon I'd do it in a heart beat

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

52. Investment at the least, preparedness at the most.

Ammunition especially can see a return on investment well over +20% to +100% over short periods of time.

I say good for him... he wanted to buy a gun(s) and was free enough to be able to be able to do so (legally).

[wtmusic]

54. What are you preparing for?

Let me clue you in: when the government comes for you, that Glock might as well be a peashooter.

[Statistical]

55. Well those peashooters in Afghanistan killed a lot of troops.

Also what makes you think all soldiers would follow orders?
What makes you think all governors would allow national guards to deploy in service of federal govt attacking its own people?
How many people would join the "insurgents" if/when federal govt uses heavy weapons which kill large numbers of non-combatants?

[wtmusic]

56. OK soldier.

You lead the revolution. I'll be right behind you. :rofl:

[Statistical]

57. I have no reason to revolt.

Then again a bunch of civilians roughly 200 years ago felt things got so bad that they did revolt against their govt.
They fought the only world superpower to draw, with little more than marginally trained civilains; something you would consider impossible.

Of course any revolution (here or abroad) only works if it has the backing of a signification fraction of the population. Raising taxes from 25% to 28% is unlikely to get that critical mass. Revolutions without support of the population are quickly quashed and leaders executed.

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[wtmusic]

63. And feel free to leave the kitchen when it starts getting warm.

If the Chinese had 1/100 the personal freedoms we have I'd be willing to consider your argument something more than a lame straw man.

There are people in this forum who believe that limiting handgun purchases is a valid reason for revolution, but it ain't even close. If you count yourselves among their ranks, please continue to build your arsenal until you feel comfortable (at least it helps the economy). But when the "revolution" comes you'll just be a brief mention in a newspaper - then life will go on for the rest of us.

[Atypical Liberal]

68. Maybe so.

You might be right. I'm sure there were lots of Tories during the American Revolution who thought the same thing about the colonists who were talking about a revolution. Myself, I'm not willing to risk it.

[PavePusher]

71. Which Civil Rights being infringed...

and how many, constitute a valid reason for revolution? Where's the line? Obviously there is one, the debate is about the placement.

[Katya Mullethov]

74. I believe the unit is called a "long train"

An obsolete unit of measurement .......like the jack , the jill & the hogshead . A measurement of volume specific to the abuse and usurpation industry .

[SteveM]

99. Do you have any points at all, except something vague which bothers you?

[Atypical Liberal]

62. The falacy of the uselessness of firearms.

>Let me clue you in: when the government comes for you, that Glock might as well be a peashooter.

I've heard this argument many times before. Yet in spite of the supposed ineffectiveness of small arms, every military force in the world still carries them.

[eallen]

67. More importantly, they train. Nothing more stupid than buying something you won't use.

Anyone who has never shot in his life going out and buying a bunch of guns proves only that a fool and his money are soon parted. If someone who has never shot develops an interest in hunting or shooting, the thing to do is to go out and buy one gun. Then use it. See if the practice appeals. If it grows dusty in the back of the closet, at least it is only one.

Of course, we already know about anyone who is influenced by Rush Limbaugh.

:hippie:

[Atypical Liberal]

69. Having tools is a prerequisite to training with them.

Having tools is a prerequisite to training with them.

The whole Limbaugh-inspiration thing is speculation on the part of the OP.

All we really know is that the fellow supposedly went out and bought 3 pistols and a rifle one day, with no plans to shoot them.

Frankly, I'm highly suspect of the story. You're talking about dropping around $1500. Now maybe the guy has more money than sense and just likes to collect things, but I'm skeptical.

[jazzhound]

83. "Frankly, I'm highly suspect of the story."

Good for you.

After falsifying the conclusion of the '86 Kellermann "study" everything this member says is suspect AFAIC.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=334436#334468

[Bold Lib]

100. WOW!!! Thanks for that link!!!

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

70. Ammo shortages... I'll still ammo in such an event for quite a awhile.

Quit assuming everyone who has guns and lots of ammo is some sort of armageddon fetishist or revolutionist.

It's better to let people only think you are an idiot rather than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[RSillsbee]

79. There are 300 MILLION of those pea shooters out there

maybe 2 million in the governments hands

Are you familiar w/ the name "Little Bighorn?"

[cleanhippie]

88. Classic strawman: ask a question, then answer it yourself with an unrelated argument.

Your post could be used in the dictionary as a classic example.

[spin]

96. There are plenty of reasons to own firearms for disaster preparation ...

the aftermath of a severe hurricane is one example. Often the police are unable to reach you in an emergency and the national guard is just mounting up.

A nice 12 gauge coach gun is reasuring.

[Atypical Liberal]

58. Must be nice to have that sort of cash on hand.

I'm lucky to be able to buy one firearm every 5 years.

Your BIL probably just dropped about $1600.

[Statistical]

66. If he is like the majority of Americans he didn't have $1600.

He now just has a credit card balance that is $1600 higher. :(

[slackmaster]

72. Riveting tale, old chap

[oneshooter]

78. If he was a left wing wingnut, would it make any difference to you? n/t

[Striker Davies]

81. Guns and that freedom thingy

I'm a landowner (just 100 acres, wilderness, not farmed) and I keep a rifle and shotgun, mostly for snakes or in serious cases, televangelists. Handguns are not permitted here and I've never seen the need for one. But I do love challenging the "Guns Protect Our Freedoms" crowd with a few questions.

First, what exactly would a tyranny actually DO that would make you rise up to overthrow it? I've never been able to get any answer at all.

Second, who would you actually shoot to overthrow a tyranny? Same response.

Third, what do think the US military would be doing while your lot is gathering several thousand armed people somewhere (undefined) in order to attack (something unidentified). Same response.

Fourth, how would you actually gather several thousand people into one location, given the systems such as "Echelon" and "Carnivore" that are monitoring electronic communications all over the country. Same response.

By this time (usually before), Freedom Fighter has stamped off in major fury. Which is a pity, because I have several more questions to ask!

[spin]

95. Handguns are excellent self defense weapons ...

You carry a handgun when you don't expect a confrontation because it is easier to carry than a shotgun or a rifle. If you are going to a fight or a war you carry a rifle or a shotgun.

A revolution would be justified when all methods had failed to change a repressive government that no longer treated all citizens as being equal and had trampled natural rights including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. In the United States, the Bill of Rights would largely be ignored and the government would have the power to arrest, torture and imprison any citizen without independent judicial review. The majority of the citizens, not just a few wingnuts, would have to agree that the abuses of the government justified a revolt. Privacy would be nonexistent. Freedom severely limited, the future would offer no hope except serving as a slave to preserve a tyrannical government.

A modern revolution in the United States would not necessarily involve a large organized fighting force attempting to take on the United States military. First, members of the military may well support the revolution if it is truly justified and provide arms and support to the rebel faction enabling an overthrow of the corrupt government or may be the prime force involved in a coup d'état. Second, guerrilla warfare is very effective against a modern army. Consider Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. The United States has spent billions of dollars training a large number of its citizens to be excellent soldiers, possibly the best in the world. The skills they learn are not easily forgotten. Soldiers who were once in the special forces such as Green Berets or Seals could form small and very effective fighting groups which could wreck havoc on the operations of a tyrannical government. Transportation systems would easily be disrupted. The power grid is extremely vulnerable.

Even general work stoppage and riots could be effective tactics.

And, of course, Americans are well armed. In 2009, citizens bought 14 million + guns which is more guns than 21 of the Worlds Standing Armies Combined. (source: http://www.ammoland.com/2010/01/13/gun-owners-buy-14-million-plus-guns-in-2009/) Before 2009 there was already an estimated 300 million firearms in civilian hands.

Revolutions are rarely necessary and often result in a government that is worse than the one that was overthrown. At this time in the United States we are nowhere close to a justified revolution. We have always lived in a contentious society and survived difficult times to become a stronger and better nation.

Our strength is our freedom. If we have no freedom left, revolution or slavery are the only remaining choices.

edited for spelling

[Marengo]

102. Why would anyone intelligent bother with your "questions"?

As your apparent intent is ridicule. However, in the event that you are honestly attempting to understand, I would end this conversation with an obvious answer: "Read a decent history book". History is replete with examples of tyranny overthrown with arms, and each of these movements has it's own special circumstances. Bearing that in mind, your questions cannot be answered with any degree of accuracy. I think you must know this.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

82. He's applied for a CCW permit? Doesn't he know that will put his name in Government Database?

a Democrat controlled Government Database?




:sarcasm:

[Glassunion]

94. Sweet

We all must do our part to stimulate the economy.

[ileus]

97. I'm going to buy a 308 this weekend for the fun of it.

Off my BIL....The last gun I got from him I've never fired.

Other than this 308 I only have 3 others on my list to buy this year. 6.8 upper and maybe a lower if I like it, a FNX40, and another youth gun for my kids.

[57_TomCat]

103. Well good for him. In the last 30 days I bought

12 guns for myself and family members. I made some extra money and bought more guns to replace the many I sold during my trying financial embarrassment. The youngest son got a youth model pump shotgun to go with his .22. The wife got her personal pistol replaced that was sold down the river. As for the rest...I wanted them for sentimental or other reasons. In addition I found several at excellent prices from others that are having issues financialy. Bought a bunch of "boolits" too.

It is good to have the option.

[spin]

105. It looks like your previous collection helped you out during the ...

economic downturn.

You remind me of a neighbor who was a foreman on a electrician crew who worked on construction projects such as new hospitals. When the tough times hit, he would sell off many of his firearms and buy new ones when times were good.

Another positive reason for having a gun collection.