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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 07:59 PM
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Heres the CBS video.
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 08:10 PM by beevul
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7357550n

Gunrunning scandal uncovered at the ATF

Program aimed at stopping the flow of weapons from the US to Mexico may have allegedly had the opposite effect

By Sharyl Attkisson

"Project Gunrunner" deployed new teams of agents to the southwest border. The idea: to stop the flow of weapons from the US to Mexico's drug cartels. But in practice, sources tell CBS News, ATF's actions had the opposite result: they allegedly facilitated the delivery of thousands of guns into criminal hands.

Sources tell CBS News several gun shops wanted to stop the questionable sales, but ATF encouraged them to continue.

On the phone, one Project Gunrunner source (who didn't want to be identified) told us just how many guns flooded the black market under ATF's watchful eye. "The numbers are over 2,500 on that case by the way. That's how many guns were sold - including some 50-calibers they let walk."

50-caliber weapons are fearsome. For months, ATF agents followed 50-caliber Barrett rifles and other guns believed headed for the Mexican border, but were ordered to let them go. One distraught agent was often overheard on ATF radios begging and pleading to be allowed to intercept transports. The answer: "Negative. Stand down."


CBS News has been told at least 11 ATF agents and senior managers voiced fierce opposition to the strategy. "It got ugly..." said one. There was "screaming and yelling" says another. A third warned: "this is crazy, somebody is gonna to get killed."


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/23/eveningnews/m... ;contentBody







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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:02 PM
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1. How about some details?
What is the link about?
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:11 PM
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3. Edited the OP to add detail.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:06 PM
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2. Add context...
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:11 PM
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4. Done. N/T
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:41 PM
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5. But how do you really FEEL about it
you know, you really can't comment on this story until you really let us know in depth about your feelings on this. You know, scared, happy, wanna wet your pants, you know, feel.
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:06 PM
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6. ROFL.
I FEEL happy that light is finally being shined on it.


I FEEL angry that the methodology at work led to the death of a border patrol agent.



I'll FEEL better when those responsible at ATF and Justice, are hung out to dry, careers ruined, and perhaps sued into bankruptcy over it.
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Oneka Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:55 PM
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7. Feelings.
I really hope you don't FEEL like holding your breath till justice is meeted out.

You may turn really BLUE.
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:22 AM
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8. Normally, I'd agree.
This thing isn't going to go away though.

BPA Terrys family is FURIOUS.


And I suspect that todays CBS report may have the effect of shaking some fence sitters down onto the ground on the "whistleblower" side of the fence.




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Oneka Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:49 PM
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9. History has a way of repeating itself where ATF scandles are concerned.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:06 AM
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11. Damn, I had forgotten about the "good ol boys roundup". Thanks for
bring that back and welcome to DU!
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:20 AM
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12. Same old, same old
Another high profile SNAFU oddly timed with Congressional budget hearings. A grandstand play meant to bolster the party line about 90% of the cartel guns coming from the US.

We’ll probably see more lies, the guilty promoted, the innocent punished (maybe even fired – and then rehired), and it will be business as usual with ATF.

Remember Waco? 1994. Two ATF supervisory agents, Phillip J. Chojnacki and Charles D. Sarabyn, who were suspended for their roles in leading the botched raid and despite a Treasury Department report of gross negligence, were reinstated in December, 1994 with full back pay and benefits (with a demotion), and had the incident removed from their personnel files.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:04 AM
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10. It is good that this is FINALLY going main stream!!! n/t
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