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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:28 PM
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Man killed in apparent gun-cleaning accident
An apparent accidental discharge while cleaning a shotgun has claimed the life of a 49-year-old Daytona Beach man. The victim, Jeffrey Williams, was found dead late Tuesday afternoon by his wife in the work area of a pole barn on the couple’s property.

After finding Williams, his frantic wife called 911 at around 5:14 p.m. Deputies rushed to the scene four minutes later, but the victim was already dead. The Volusia County Sheriff’s Office is treating the death as accidental, although an autopsy will be conducted by the Volusia County Medical Examiner’s Office to confirm the preliminary findings at the scene.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/february/210916/Man-killed-in-apparent-guncleaning-accident
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:01 AM
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1. A family member of mine was almost killed in a cleaning accident too
Instead, he's extremely impaired due to the bullet damaging your brain. So the moral of this story is to check, double check, triple-check that your gun is unloaded. And has no round in the chamber.
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:04 AM
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2. Gun owners have a duty to be more careful.
There are responsibilities that come with the right to keep and bear.

Fortunately, such negligent incidents are quite rare, considering how many millions of firearms there are out there.
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kudzu22 Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:05 AM
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3. I've heard that a lot of cleaning accidents are actually suicides
Not sure if I believe it though.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 01:06 AM
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4. I know of one that could have been
When I was a teenager, a neighbor that owned a farm down the road was killed in a "gun cleaning accident". My dad was a close friend with one of the deputies that handled the case and I overheard them talking. The deputy said he was supposedly going to clean a pistol but had a rifle cleaning kit in his lap when he entered the scene and that the gunshot, powder burns etc were consistent with him comitting suicide. His wife probably grabbed a cleaning kit and put it there before she called. They were about to lose the farm, it was mortgaged to the hilt, failing and headed for foreclosure. So sad :(

The sherriff's dept wrote it up as an accident, no need to put an already distraught family through further grief.
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kudzu22 Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 06:44 PM
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6. Another thing is that life insurance does not pay for suicides
It wouldn't surprise me if it was staged, either before or after death.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 11:41 AM
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13. I believe many policies do pay out suicides after the policy reaches a certain maturity.., ?
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kudzu22 Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:23 PM
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14. If it's whole life, but hardly anyone buys whole life anymore
Whole life policies have a cash value that you can get when you surrender the policy, but they won't pay full death benefit for suicides until the cash value reaches the death benefit level (aka maturity). Most life policies these days are term life, and they have no cash value and never pay for suicides.

Yes, I confess, I'm an insurance geek.:boring: :boring: :boring:
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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 01:12 AM
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5. Cleaning a gun without making sure that it isn't loaded...
...is like driving with your eyes closed. Who does that?

I'm very suspicious of stories like this. My first thought is suicide, especially when it's a long gun. It really not that easy to point a long gun at oneself accidentally.

I was taught to break down a shotgun to clean it. I remove the barrel from the action and clean it separately. Doesn't everybody?

What are we talking about here? A person ramming a cleaning rod down the muzzle of a shotgun with the action closed? That's like driving blindfolded and drunk.
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 08:37 PM
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7. Now they are saying the Panama City Shooting "Victim "
Shot himself in the head "5or6" times ! Fuuuhh-hhuuuuck . " I say we take up a collection and send him to Thunder Ranch when he's back on his feet .


http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/116676154.html

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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:31 PM
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8. The mind boggles!
To not hit anything important after 5 or 6 shots to the head.... that is gonna be one ugly looking dude when he gets out of the hospital.

He must be as hard-headed and empty-headed as some here I can think of

yup

yup

yup

:rofl:
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:34 PM
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9. Weren't you shot..... 5 times in the tabloids ?
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:52 PM
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10. Nah, only twice
Both times it was in Tay Nihn province, north of Nui Ba Den.
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 09:19 AM
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12. Doesnt sound like they got anywhere near your tabloids
Sorry , but I neglected to mention it was Myrna Loy Joke Night .
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:55 PM
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11. There's never a reason to aim a gun at yourself when you clean a gun
Probably a suicide
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