One arrested after pointing loaded gun inside of a bar (IN)

[jpak]

http://www.14wfie.com/story/14649372/epd

Evansville Police say officers had to taze Tyrone Murphy in order to make the arrest.

Police say Murphy was inside Gloria's Coral Club on Saturday night when he pulled out a loaded handgun and began pointing it inside the bar.

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Why does he GOP?NRA think that guns in bars are a good thing?

they are not

yup

[TheCowsCameHome]

1. Maybe the service was poor,

and ol' Rone was just lookin' to catch the server's eye.

[DrDan]

2. didn't they just pass this for Tennessee? What could go wrong?

Of course, you can't drink while totin' in the bar.

[ileus]

3. Time to yank his CWP, he did have one right?

[eqfan592]

11. The story doesn't say.

And jpak doesn't differentiate between legal and illegal carry, so it matters little to him/her.

[Euromutt]

4. Did Mr. Murphy have a CCW permit? Had he been consuming alcohol?

The article, in its brevity, does not give an answer to either question.

The possibility exists that this incident merely illustrates the counter-argument that the laws permitting licensed concealed carry into establishments that serve alcohol (but prohibit the carrier from consuming alcohol) won't permit the occurrence of undesirable incidents to any greater degree than was already possible.

Let's assume, for the sake of the argument, that Indiana state law prohibited carrying a firearm into a bar (i.e. an establishment whose primary source of revenue is the sale of alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises), and prohibited possession of a firearm while legally "under the influence." What would have physically prevented Mr. Murphy from doing exactly the same thing he did?

Not a goddamn thing.

Now let me state for the record that, despite being an NRA member, I am actively in favor of prohibiting carrying while "under the influence" and I have no problem with prohibiting carry in bars. But by "bars" I do mean establishments whose primary purpose is to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, whereas the anti-RKBA crowd seems to define "bar" as any and all establishments that serve alcohol, even if it's ancillary to serving food. Which is, frankly, a bullshit definition.

[sharesunited]

7. Once again you illustrate the point that laws regulating how irresponsible you can be are futile.

Access to guns and ammo at all is where the real problem lies.

[RSillsbee]

8. Minor disagreement

Now let me state for the record that, despite being an NRA member, I am actively in favor of prohibiting carrying while "under the influence" and I have no problem with prohibiting carry in bars."

I may have misread your statement but this seems to imply that the NRA's official position is that it's OK to carry a weapon while under the influence and I am fairly certain this is not the case.

If I misunderstood your intent I apologize

[Euromutt]

13. Some clarification is in order

The passage in question was intended to reflect what certain posters on this forum seem to believe the NRA position is, rather what it actually is.

[RSillsbee]

16. Ah So Ka NT

[ensho]

5. agree - guns in bars - NO

nt

[armueller2001]

6. Sounds like the law worked.

Person commits crime, gets arrested for said crime. Wow.

[Kolesar]

14. Now I know why law enforcement is skeptical about ubiquitous gun possession...eom

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[TheCowsCameHome]

12. Whoa - the dreaded unrec.

Is that the best you've got?

[eqfan592]

15. Really, what else is there to say to a post such as this?

It does nothing to prove a solid point one way or another, because the key issue of contention on these forums (legal carry in bars) is not addressed as we have no idea of the person in this case had a permit or not. If he did not, then no point is really made other than to say that yet another criminal had no issues breaking the law. If he did have a permit, then jpak managed to find the exception to the rule.

[eqfan592]

10. The story doesn't mention if he was a legal carrier of a firearm or not....

...so your point is completely lost. End of story. But hey, nice try.