GUNS IN THE NEWS--August 10, 2004

[MrBenchley]

As CO Liberal sez:
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[MrBenchley]

1. Teen seeks to buy gun manufacturer

"Maxfield, 17, is in the final days of a tense, quixotic gambit to buy and dismantle the company that made the gun that left him a quadriplegic.
Last year the teen won a record $24 million judgment against Bryco Arms, its distribution arm, and its owner. Bryco was forced into bankruptcy, and on Thursday, a federal judge in Florida will auction off 75,600 unassembled guns and other remaining assets.
Maxfield hopes to buy the inventory, melt it down, and create a sculpture from the metal. The teen and his lawyer, Richard Ruggieri, say revenge is not their motivation -- they simply want to make sure no one else is hurt.
''It started with horror, the realization that -- notwithstanding the fact that we had this unanimous finding of defect -- there was nothing in the law to prevent them from putting these defective guns back on the market," said Ruggieri, who took on Maxfield's case in 2001 when no other lawyers would."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/08/10/teen_seeks_to_buy_gun_manufacturer/

[MrBenchley]

2. Suspect Dead After Shootout (OK)

"23 year old Gaylon Boyd has died from  gunshot wounds sustained, when members of the metro fugitive task force opened fire.  Sheriff John Whetsel says officers used deadly force, after Boyd allegedly pointed a gun in their direction.  Whetsel says officers were attempting to arrest Boyd in the parking lot at a convenience store at Southwest 29th and Kentucky.  Boyd was wanted in connection with the shaking death of his 8 week old son.  "

http://www.ktok.com/cc-common/feeds/view.php?feed_id=135&feed=/local.html&instance=1&article_id=6121

[MrBenchley]

3. Two Shot, One Dead in NW Atlanta

"Two people are reported shot – one of them dead – along Collier Drive in northwest Atlanta.
Initial reports indicate a homicide team is at the scene. The condition of the second gunshot victim has not been confirmed."

http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=50335

Just another bloody day in the shooting gallery we call the US...and the gun industry spends millions each year to keep you and your family in the line of fire....

http://www.bradycenter.org/

http://www.vpc.org/

http://ww2.americansforgunsafety.com/

[MrBenchley]

4. Police identify man fatally shot at funeral gathering (FL)

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"Fort Lauderdale police on Monday identified a Lauderhill man as the victim of a fatal shooting outside of a post-funeral gathering over the weekend.
Linval G. Titus, 47, of 6701 W. Oakland Park Blvd., died after an unidentified gunman shot him in the head during a gathering of 100 mourners who had left a funeral earlier.
Titus, along with about 100 others, gathered outside of a Fort Lauderdale apartment to mourn the passing of a local man, Ralford Anderson, 54, who died of natural causes.
The shooter, who police are calling ''Wayne,'' walked into the front yard of an apartment at 2675 SW Sixth Ct. about 2:50 p.m. Saturday and shot Titus, police said."

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/states/florida/counties/broward_county/9360214.htm

[Gunsforme]

5. I can't wait to do my thread....

I can't wait to do my thread entitled, 'Lightning Strikes in the News'... It'll be about as entertaining as your daily nonsense.

[MrBenchley]

6. Be sure and hold your breath until you do...

[iverglas]

9. but I wouldn't advise

... baiting it, as someone was doing here earlier today.

I always assume that baited breath is what must result from eating too many worms ...

... or

[MrBenchley]

10. The tomcat ate cheese

so he could crouch by the mouse hole with baited breath....

[FeebMaster]

12. Nice picture. (nt)

[iverglas]

13. good ol' google images

I should do a better job of crediting.

http://www.b3ta.com/board/archive/4181/

People do all sorts of things on the internet besides argue about firearms policy, amazingly enough. I'm not sure exactly what it is that those folks are doing, but they seem to be enjoying themselves.

I googled for my postal code the other day (looking for StatsCan data about income by census areas) and came up with a site where my idiot co-vivant had registered to talk incomprehensibly about music composing software, and given his real postal code. Sheesh.

[FeebMaster]

14. I meant the

"I tried to steal images from www.dogbomb.co.uk" one.

[iverglas]

15. well gee

I guess you should just learn to speak more clearly.

And be sure to accuse all your little chums hereabouts of copyright violation whenever they post an image from another site, 'k?

Speaking of speaking clearly, surely you aren't suggesting that I tried to pass the work off as my own. I think I've made it plain in the past that I don't know nuttin about photoshop ... and unless you were suggesting that I'd adopted the name "dogbomb", which appears clearly on the image ... well, I just don't know.

You should maybe have done the work before speaking the second time. The image was copied from the site I provided a link to ... where it appears to have been posted by dogbomb him/herself. And of course the image I posted contained the credit info placed there by the author.

Heck. Maybe you're trying to say something else altogether.

All in all, I guess I just don't know what yr problem is, if problem you have, but if you wanted to speak plainly, perhaps I'd get it.

[FeebMaster]

16. I just liked their replacement is all.

I thought I had made that clear in my first two posts.

[iverglas]

19. oh oh oh oh oh

I hadn't seen the "replacement", you see. Very clever.

Last time I looked at the image in my post, it was an image. I went and checked the source I had got it from, not my post, when I was checking that it said "dogbomb" on it. I just looked at my post again now and saw the "replacement" for the first time; the replacement process seems to take some time. I get it. Your reply made no sense at all as a reply to what I posted, and had seen posted, was the problem. (I hadn't even known that the image was from a site called "dogbomb", since I just found it on a discussion forum, posted by someone with the handle "dogbomb". Still no excuse for the lifting, of course, but one doesn't tend to think of things on public forums as being jealously guarded by their authors.)

If you want to see the picture, copy this and paste it and remove the space.

http://www.dogbomb.org/more2/b3ta_baitedbreath. jpg

[MrBenchley]

7. Boynton Beach man killed in second drive-by shooting (FL)

"WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - A man who survived a drive-by shooting five months ago was killed in a second drive-by shooting on the same block, officials said.
Victel "Victor" Servius, 26, of Boynton Beach, died Monday on the pavement about 25 feet from his vehicle, police said. The suspects remained at large.
In March, Servius and two friends were driving on the same block when shots erupted from a passing vehicle, according to police reports. One of his friends suffered a leg wound, but Servius was not injured.
On Monday, Servius crashed his auto-detailing vehicle into a fence, jumped out of the passenger side and ran up the street where he died, police said."

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/9361878.htm

[MrBenchley]

8. Shooting victim listed as critical (AL)

"The DeKalb County Sheriff’s Department is searching for an attempted murder suspect in relation to a shooting that occurred in the Pine Ridge community Sunday evening.
DeKalb County Sheriff Cecil Reed said the district attorney’s office issued a warrant on Monday for Brian Heath Butler, 28, of Crossville, on a charge of attempted murder.
James said Butler allegedly shot and critically injured Tracy Lee Mars, 33 of Powell. "

http://www.times-journal.com/report.lasso?WCD=2521

[MrBenchley]

11. Congressman pleads guilty to gun charge

And they threw the booklet at him, too....

"LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- An Indiana congressman pleaded guilty today to a charge he brought a loaded gun to Louisville International Airport in April.
Rep. John Hostettler did not appear in Jefferson County District Court to enter the plea to a misdemeanor charge of carrying a concealed deadly weapon.
Hostettler agreed to a 60-day sentence that would be suspended for two years, said Bill Patteson, a spokesman for the Jefferson County Attorney's office. Hostettler would not have to serve the sentence if he meets the terms of the plea agreement, Patteson said.
As part of the plea today, Hostettler agreed to surrender the handgun that was found in his luggage on April 20. Also for a two-year period, Hostettler would only be allowed to buy a handgun in Indiana and Washington, D.C., his two places of residence."

http://www.indystar.com/articles/6/169149-8116-109.html

And by the way, this is the sort of fuckwit who calls himself "pro-gun"...a shining part of the scummy Second Amendment Caucus...

[MrBenchley]

17. Man hit by shotgun after quarrel on road (CA)

Another glorious celebration of the Second Amendment!

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"Police said a preliminary investigation revealed the victim was driving west on Story Road near Jackson Avenue, following his sister home from church, when a dark-color Chevy Silverado extended-cab pickup truck swung wide into that lane as it took a right on Story from Jackson.
The pickup skidded to a stop to avoid a collision with the sister's vehicle. The victim and the driver of the Silverado argued over the incident.
At that point, the pickup driver began to make gestures that the victim took to be gang signs. The victim withdrew, but as he drove north on Highway 101 near the 13th Street off-ramp, the Silverado pulled up on the left.
A passenger in the truck opened fire with a shotgun. One of the three rounds fired slightly injured the victim, whose vehicle sustained major damage."

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/9362005.htm

[MrBenchley]

18. Ohio Teen Found Shot To Death Behind Restaurant

"Adam Rigley, 14, was found dead near East 75th Street and St. Clair Avenue at about 8:30 a.m. Tuesday.
Rigley, also known as Flip, was shot in the chest and arm by a .45 caliber semi-automatic handgun, police said.
The shooting took place behind Helen's Restaurant. "

http://www.channelcincinnati.com/news/3638633/detail.html

[MrBenchley]

20. 3 men injured in Homestead shootings (PA)

"Four men last night had a shootout on a Homestead street, leaving three of the four men in the hospital.
The shooting happened at 11:45 last night in the 800 block of Amity Street, Homestead police Chief Mark Zuger said. Two men were standing on the sidewalk, the other two men were standing in the street, and the two teams were arguing with each other, the chief said.
A Homestead police officer on patrol came upon the men just as gunfire erupted.
The men scattered upon seeing the officer, leaving behind two semi-automatic pistols. Two men ran toward East Hazel Way, while the other men started toward Eighth Avenue. One of the men bound for Eighth Avenue doubled back to the officer, saying he'd been shot, Zuger said. "

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/trib/pmupdate/s_207505.html

[MrBenchley]

21. Police investigate 2 early-morning club shootings (SC)

"Police are still investigating two similar but unrelated nightclub shootings that left several people injured Saturday in Myrtle Beach and Horry County.
The first shooting happened after an argument started about 2:38 a.m. Saturday in Club Baja at 906 S. Kings Highway in Myrtle Beach, police reports say.
The other shooting, which police say is unrelated, happened about 30 minutes later at Roscoe's Club on Cedar Branch Road, Sgt. Andy Christenson of the Horry County Police Department said."

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/local/9361239.htm

[MrBenchley]

22. Bar Shootings (TX)

"August 9, 2004 -- The latest shooting happened at Smokey's Saloon on Lee Trevino. This incident is very similar to the shooting at Las Chicas in Northeast El Paso. Except in this case, at least two innocent bystanders were shot, killing one of them.
Blanche Martinez- Business Owner, "It's just a waste of life, to fight over money, boyfriends and girlfriends and just the dumbest things nobody deserves to die.""

http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/3635831/detail.html