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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:10 AM
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So What Are Gun Groups Up To Today?
Well, the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action has its front page almoist completely devoted to attacks on John Kerry and John Edwards...as well as a fawning interview with scummy Interior Secretary Gale "The South should have won" Norton....

And over at the klavern folks call GOA, Larry Pratt and his borther are pissing and moaning about Barack Obama, and include a fine amateur wingnut essay against John Kerry from Opinion Journal, the right wing's most pathetic website...

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turnkey Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:13 AM
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1. At least you're keeping up on the issues...
in this election year. It's good to be well informed. :)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:18 AM
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2. I know the pro gun groups are slime
and where John Kerry stands...

Funny, you'd think if, there were all those millions of gun-toting liberals out there that our RKBAers say there are, you'd find them doing something besides posting ignorant right wing talking points and slandering Democrats here, wouldn't you?

But then nothing about the RKBA creed is remotely honest...or liberal.
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turnkey Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:22 AM
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3. Your opinion is well documented...
I just don't happen to agree with much of it...but that's OK too.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 12:03 PM
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4. Boy, our RKBAers sure are tolerant...
except when actual liberal or Democratic positions are mentioned aloud.

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enfield collector Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 12:59 PM
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5. they're mostly just counting down till sept 14 and chilling the
champagne. magnum bottles of course.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 01:30 PM
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6. Yup...right wing shitheels all over the intenet
are pissing their pants over getting their sweaty shaky hands on those assault weapons.

What a scummy bunch of thugs.
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enfield collector Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 01:53 PM
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7. I've got a fixed folding stock to unpin on my AK47 clone. it should
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 02:20 PM by fourays2
be much more deadly after I do that.


after sept 14th of course.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 02:34 PM
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8. And the NRA will still be right wing pieces of shit...
But it must make you mighty proud to have Alan Keyes on your side....
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turnkey Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 02:50 PM
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9. He has his good points...
Albeit I don't necessarily agree with everything he espouses.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 02:55 PM
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10. Well, you're welcome to the scummy little thug...
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:37 PM
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20. His unelectability is his best point by many a mile n/t
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:43 PM
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26. One of our trigger-happy chums cheering for Alan Keyes
Revealing, isn't it?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:12 PM
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11. Interesting, isn't it?
Not a single "pro-gun democrat" seems in the least bothered by scurrilous attacks on Democrats in any discernable way. Hell, as you can see, some of them are even CHEERING ALONG!

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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:16 PM
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12. Well, I'm still scratching my head over
trying to figure out how pointing out how Kerry has voted on gun bills is attacking him.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:19 PM
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13. Keep on scratching, feeb.....
I'm sure it will come to you eventually...
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:28 PM
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15. I doubt it. (nt)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:31 PM
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16. Scratch harder....
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:33 PM
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17. Why?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:40 PM
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22. Because clearly you aren't scratching hard enough
Either that, or you're just dishonestly trying to pretend the NRA isn't peddling right wing horseshit...and I can't imagine why anyone would even try to do that....or how anybody could be dumb enough to think anyone else would fall for that.

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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:41 PM
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24. Well it seems a waste of time
since all gun owners are racists who will probably vote for George Bush anyway.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:56 PM
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33. Which of your posts isn't a waste of time, feeb?
There must be one...
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:03 PM
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36. I guess it's a matter of opinion.
I'd think all of you gun control supporters might appreciate my explanations on how to get all the gun control you want passed.
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turnkey Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:26 PM
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14. Good point!...It is afterall, public record! n/t
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:36 PM
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19. So tell us about the voting record, turnkey....
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 03:36 PM by MrBenchley
What's wrong with it? I sure as shit don't see anything wrong there...but then I'm not a right wing fuckwit....
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turnkey Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:39 PM
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21. You strike me as a fairly intelligent fellow...
I'm sure that you will understand why a pro-gun voter might be just a tad concerned with the good Senators historical stand.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:42 PM
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25. That's why I don't fall for any of this RKBA horseshit....
But feel free to tell us more....why would anybody considering themselves a liberal or a progressive be concerned with Kerry's voting record?
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turnkey Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:46 PM
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27. As you have stated above...
Scratch a little harder...you'll figure it out. ;)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:56 PM
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32. Gee, so you can't say what you mean and I can....
and I say there's not a goddamn thing wrong with Kerry's voting record.

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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:10 PM
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39. SO that makes you...
"but then I'm not a right wing fuckwit...."

A left wing fuckwit?

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:27 PM
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42. Nope....
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 04:29 PM by MrBenchley
But it sure tells us what the folks criticizing Kerry over there are....

So tell us fescue...why do you suppose so many of our "pro gun democrats" don't seem in the least upset by this crap?
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 06:05 PM
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52. Why?

Dunno. Perhaps we should ask.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:25 PM
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56. Feel free to ask, fescue....
I'm sure the results will be...entertaining.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:34 PM
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18. So you took a look at the NRA's little online klavern, feeb....
but failed to mention the crap about Kerry "exploting the nation's wounds over Viet Nam." Or the idiotic attack on John Edwards....

Guess you better keep scratching.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:40 PM
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23. Huh?
I went to the www.nraila.org and saw some mention of Kerry's voting record on guns and something about "Help Shoot Down the Clinton Gun Ban." I didn't see anything about "exploiting the nation's wounds over Viet Nam" and the only mention of Edwards was a link where they appear to be talking about Edwards' voting record on guns although I didn't read all of it because I don't care.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:52 PM
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28. All 3 'In the news' pieces
are anti-Kerry editorials.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:54 PM
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29. See, feeb only looks at what suits his silliness
for whatever bizarre reason he does stuff...

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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:55 PM
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31. Well, I sure love reading the NRA's website.
I don't know how I missed all of those attacks on Kerry.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:58 PM
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34. I don't know how you missed them either....
unless you were deliberately trying to give the impression that the NRA wasn't attacking Kerry....and I can't imagine even you thought anyone would buy that whopper.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:06 PM
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38. Well
I hadn't even scrolled down far enough the first time I went to the NRA's website. I'm not big on reading what the NRA has to say, after all. They support too much gun control for my tastes.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:55 PM
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30. Oh, of course.
Media-Ready Crib Sheet
8/26/2004
Kerry`s Lost Opportunity
8/26/2004
Heroes Don`t Shout
8/26/2004

Isn't it obvious from the titles? Clearly I should have read every single link on the page.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 03:58 PM
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35. "Isn't it obvious from the titles?"
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 04:03 PM by MrBenchley
Yeah....it is. Unless you want to pretend that someone could look at a link called "Kerry's lost opportunity" and not realize it was John Kerry, the Democratic nominee, that the link was talking about. You know, the war hero whose record is under attack by right wing pieces of shit in articles with titles like "Heroes Don't Shout."

Maybe you thought it was an article about the town of Kerry in County Tralee? Naw, nobody could be that stupid.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:04 PM
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37. Kerry's Lost Opportunity
Clearly an attack on Kerry and his war record. Heroes Don't Shout, why you don't even have to read it to know that it's about Kerry.
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thomas82 Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:30 PM
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57. what Senator Kerry
Should do is say Pres Bush supports the AW ban,then say: I as an American promise to quit punishing law abiding gun owners and will not allow another worthless AW ban. I think this would ensure him a landslide victory in November because finally Democrats will not be seen as potential gun grabbers.
Tom
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:20 PM
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40. Only providing information n/t
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:26 PM
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41. Information is kryptonite to feeb
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:04 PM
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43. Sure it is.
"Information is kryptonite to feeb"

I guess that explains why all these gun control supporters will read every link on the NRA website but haven't read a single federal gun law and happily ignore explanations on how to get as much gun control as they want. It's because information is kryptonite to me.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:10 PM
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44. Yeah, it is, feeb....
"happily ignore explanations on how to get as much gun control as they want"
A wise person considers the source....and can discern the difference between explanations and idiotic fantasies.

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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:16 PM
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45. It's hard to consider the source
when you haven't bothered to read the laws the source is discussing. Best to dismiss it out of hand and go read the NRA website. lol
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:28 PM
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46. No, it's easy to dismiss the source
when you see the other silly things they say.....
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:28 PM
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47. Hahah. You said it. (nt)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:42 PM
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48. And thus feeb moaning and crying because no one listens to him....
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:47 PM
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49. Who's crying?
If the gun control supporters follow my advice, guns will be banned. I certainly don't want that. I am in tears over the whole reading every article on the NRA website thing though. Truly hilarious.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:50 PM
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50. Who indeed....
"If the gun control supporters follow my advice, guns will be banned."
And then flying monkeys will come out of Dick Cheney's doughy ass....
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:57 PM
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51. Uh huh.
"If the gun control supporters follow my advice, guns will be banned."
And then flying monkeys will come out of Dick Cheney's doughy ass....



Fortunately the gun grabbers are an incompetent bunch. They can't even get the AWB renewed. Fifteen years wasted on the dumbest gun control law you can imagine.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 06:08 PM
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53. Yeah, guess we'll just forego your "advice"
and wonder why somebody would try to pretend the NRA wasn't slandering Kerry when it clearly was...
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 06:48 PM
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55. Whatever you think is best. (nt)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 06:14 PM
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54. And it's stil noticeable
there's not a single "pro gun democrat" who seems in the least upset that these two groups are slandering their candidates.

Telling, isn't it?
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