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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:32 PM
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yes, guns only have one use.
to put holes in things. usually resulting in the death and/or destruction of the thing in question.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:35 PM
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1. And nothing makes a neo-con happier than an unarmed liberal
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 05:35 PM by noahmijo
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:36 PM
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2. and nothing makes ted nugent swell up quite like the thought of
a gun store on every corner.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:39 PM
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5. alright here we go....
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 05:43 PM by noahmijo
so what do you propose do you want to ban guns? what's your point? you think gun owners should be scolded even if they are safe and law abiding?

I'm a gun owner, I have a stored arsenal of weapons locked in a safe that not even the greatest thief in the world could penetrate much less small children. I do not rely on them for self defense even given the fact that I live in an area where the most dangerous criminal would be some drunken idiot who is accidently in the wrong house and only worth a scolding not a bullet.

Being brought up around guns it's a hobby I've had since I was very young and I raised with the idea of being aware and safe.

Now are you going to compare me to some whacko neo-con who thinks all them crazies are comin to kill him?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 06:17 PM
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9. It sure is funny as hell
that our "pro gun democrats" don't mind posting right wing talking points and slandering Democrats left and right...

but can't be bothered to say a single pro Democrat word on any gun owner forum anywhere.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:39 PM
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4. Funny...
When I hear "neo cons" (or just plain old fashionedright wing fuckwits) moaning and pissing, it's because some unarmed liberal has shown up with facts, reason, common sense and tolerance.

I yet to hear any of them say "Oh no, he's got a gun just like I do."
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 02:06 PM
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59. locking
until cooler heads prevail
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:37 PM
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3. The term "Production For Use" comes to mind.
Sure, some people just like to look at them...

but guns are designed and produced to be used.

Sportsmen/women give most gun owners a good name. <That was my gun joke! No offense to sportsmen/women!>

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Romulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:39 PM
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6. yup
that's why this guy has his:



To "kill as many as people, indiscriminately, as possible" :eyes:
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:45 PM
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7. if that thing wasn't capable of killing en masse, would he be holding it?
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WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 10:43 PM
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17. Nice G36
No use putting a G36 on the list of a new AWB. They will not be sold to civilians anyway. Want to bet someone tries to ban them anyway?
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 06:14 PM
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8. I use guns to kill and destroy targets.
paper ones, that is
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goju Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 06:31 PM
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10. Excellent
"to put holes in things".... that is perfect. No further questions.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 06:35 PM
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11. Or to be gazed at in a museum
this is my favourite pasttime that involves guns. Military history museums are great fun.
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LibraLabSoldier Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:32 PM
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12. Of course....
Take all the guns away, and we will all be safer.....and the police will protect us all.....And of course, a gun owner is obviously A right wing republican in liberal clothing.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:39 PM
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13. You concluded all that from my post? Amazing. n/t
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:32 PM
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14. What liberal clothing?
I yet to see anything remotely liberal expressed down here by our trigger-happy chums....

Most of them aren't even trying to pretend these days...we got "pro gun democrats" cheerleading out loud for Alan Keyes.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:45 PM
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15. Who was cheerleading for Alan Keyes? (nt)
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:51 AM
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21. Every Dem in Illinois is cheering Alan Keyes, Tongue in cheek of
course. His mouth is his worst enemy. His stance on the gun issue is not much of an issue in IL.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:02 AM
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23. Hey, it must warm the hearts of the trigger happy
to have such an eloquent "progressive liberal" (cough cough cough) espousing the RKBA cause.....hahahahahaha!
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:23 AM
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24. umm, do you know anything of Illinois politics.?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:45 AM
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25. Yeah, I do....
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 10:48 AM by MrBenchley
And I know what a scramble it was for the GOP to find a specimen as peculiar as Keyes....

He's a fucking idiot in every regard..so it's no surprise he's gung-ho RKBA...

By the way, where does Barack Obama stand, I wonder? Oh yeah, he's for gun control...
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 12:46 PM
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28. Google is great isn't it. No Illinois GOP wanted to touch this after
Ryan fell from grace. The GOP did not have much to choose from, considering after asking 6 candidates to take the plunge and all declined. The GOP's are disgusted with their own party here in IL....
and now more so than ever after the GOP state committee picked Keyes. He has 24% of his own party behind him, hardly a mandate. LOL
So, who really cares what Keyes is doing. You keep mentioning him and I find it very funny. All the Dems here are haveing a great time. Obama is not even mentioning the gun control issue in his speeches here, WHY? because it is a non issue here. The only one who seems to bring this up all the time is you and Keyes.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 12:58 PM
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30. Ah, right on top of things, as usual
"Obama is not even mentioning the gun control issue in his speeches here"
Always wonderful to see how forthright and honest our pro-gun democrats are....

"Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs retorted that the Democratic Senate candidate had a record of voting for gun safety while recognizing the legitimate needs of sportsmen.
"If Mr. Keyes is concerned about public safety, I would suggest he abandon his long-standing opposition to the federal ban on military-style assault weapons," Gibbs said in an e-mail issued by the Obama campaign office.
Keyes opposes the assault weapons ban, which expires next month; Obama supports the ban."

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/24keyes.html

So tell us, what did Alan Keyes say about gun control, since you say he's bringing it up? Oh that's right...the crazy fuckwit is pro-gun all the way....

"who really cares what Keyes is doing. You keep mentioning him and I find it very funny."
I doubt you find him half as funny as I do....
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:13 PM
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31. Your link says absolutely nothing to my point. I know the whole
story about the guy in Wilmette and why that bill was brought up. REALLY, you are telling me something I know. You are not addressing my point, which is that the issue of gun control is a non issue here. Alan Keyes brings it up because he has no idea what Illinois is conserned about. i.e. health care, outsourcing, jobs, the economy, gun control is down the list at around 10 or 11. Keep googling I am sure you will find another useless link to give more opportunity to use the word fuckwit again.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:30 PM
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38. My link is right to the point...
And it sure is hilarious to see you trying to run away from your pro-gun spokesman....

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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:45 PM
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49. You say things that are not true about me and you expect me to
keep debating you. This happens quite often and I am sick of it. See Yeah.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:52 PM
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55. Hahahahaha...
"You say things that are not true about me"
Please tell me that you're going to try to pretend now that you're not pro-gun.....like nobody here's seen your posts.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:58 PM
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16. Actually, it is to fire a projectile
I often shoot at swinging targets which does not put holes through them.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 02:14 AM
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:51 AM
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19. Gee, not our fault that your toys turn out to be useless
and that the RKBA cause turned out to be bogus from top to bottom....and pushed by the scummiest public figures around to boot.

But it's delightful to have somebody who boasts that he leaves a loaded shotgun where toddlers can get it tell US that WE need to "make things safer."

"Fascists."
Gee, and yet every humhole with a swastika running around these days is shouting this idiotic "gun rights" propaganda at the top of his rancid lungs. And Crisco John AssKKKroft, who's shredded the Consittution and devoted his career to bigotry and hate, is pro-gun all the way...

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:24 PM
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:28 PM
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36. "die a slow painful death from cancer". i'm pretty sure...
that you need to check out the message board rules, sir.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:36 PM
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41. i havent called you any of those things.
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LibraLabSoldier Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:39 PM
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44. I was speaking directly to Mr. Benchley
Which is why I addressed the thread to him. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:55 PM
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57. Are you trying to pretend you didn't call him a fascist in post 18?
Maybe you can tell us what in post 16 by Columbia made you call him a fascist.

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:37 PM
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43. Be sure to link to the posts where YOU were called that
So we can see how, um, unfair that was....

"Gun loony who keeps loaded weapons out where his children can hurt themselves...."
Well, who said that? Oh yeah....

"LibraLabSoldier
66. Simple, I dont.
My children have been taught gun safety and responsibility since they were 18 months old. They know to treat all guns as loaded, and guns are not toys. It is really not that difficult to raise your kids to understand this. Besides, my shotgun that stays under my bed is difficult for even my wife to operate, much less one of the kids.
LibraLabSoldier
69. My kids
Are aged 7 and 3. "

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=80606&mesg_id=80606&page=
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:34 PM
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:57 PM
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58. So that means you ain't got no links
which we both knew...

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:32 PM
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39. "I dont know why the hell you even bother"
Then stick around.

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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 12:51 PM
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29. i do have hobbies, but they dont involve calling progressives "fascists"
just for pointing out that guns kill.
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jtb33 Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:16 PM
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32. I think that he referred to "you" as that because...
he gets understandably upset and frustrated at that thought of you being content with taking away his rights (being a law-abiding citizen) because of the possibility of somone doing something illegal.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:22 PM
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33. i'd be interested to hear his thoughts on ashcroft, the progun Hatriot Act
creator. is he a fascist, or is it just me.
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LibraLabSoldier Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:37 PM
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42. Quite Honestly
The patriot act is anything but. I am against anything that takes rights away from Americans. You think I am a right winger? I am for complete, total no restriction gay marriage. I am pro choice all the way. Most of my political leanings are liberal in nature. But since I have guns, and think that I have the right to keep them, I am a right wing "fuckwit" really, benchley, you have got to get a better word.
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enfield collector Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:26 PM
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35. there's that pre-emption doctorine that the grabbers
love to use. I'm surprised they didn't approve of shrubs "pre-emption" in Iraq?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:40 PM
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45. Gee, some of us get upset
at people who claim to have imaginary rights and pimp for a corrupt industry.

Especially when they seem to spend so much energy slandering Democrats and posting idiotic right wing talking points.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:45 AM
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20. Pity the poor hapless paper targets
Destroyed in the prime of their lives.
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Remmah Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 12:13 PM
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26. Never Forget: Millions of clay birds murdered as well.
Pull~
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 12:14 PM
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27. Skeets are endangered in some parts of Europe
It's really a crisis of monumental proportions.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:56 AM
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22. Not true, I am training my gun to sit and fetch. I have a shotgun that
can open the door and let itself out too.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:41 PM
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46. Better start leaving the lid down on your toilet
Any gun that can do all that is going to drink from the bowl.

:argh:
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:51 PM
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54. it does.
it is in the options next to each persons name. feel free to use it.
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LibraLabSoldier Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:53 PM
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56. Thank you.
I dont have a problem with you. You actually discuss things with people. I have never seen you resort to low blows or namecalling. I just get pissed at people who stick so firmly to their ideology that attack everyone who disagrees with them.
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