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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:32 PM Original message |
Poll question: should these kind of guns be legal for any given person to own? |
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goju (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. What do you mean by "any given person"? |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. i mean like |
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goju (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Thank you |
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xPayback (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. hunting rifles were designed to kill deer. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. M16? I don't see any M16's up there. |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. ..ar15. whatever you want to call it. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. That's not an AR-15 either. |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. what is it, then? |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. It is an automatic M4 Carbine with M203 grenade launcher |
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xPayback (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. ar15 does not equal m16. |
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goju (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. What does "design" have to do with anything? |
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akodo1 (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 05:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
60. wrong again |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. look at that picture of the AK's or M4 and tell me it's for hunting deer. |
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expatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:35 PM Response to Reply #69 |
88. it's for the hunter on the go... makes 'instant deer soup' |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #69 |
133. Most AK-47s come factory with a 5 round hunting magazine... |
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goju (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Not yet they dont |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. What is it Gen. Wesley Clark likes to say? |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. No, I think it was Heinrich Himmler who said that |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. Keeping In Mind...... |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Nice to see someone get the quotes right, for a change. (nt) |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. You'd think Clark would have reviewed his history before speaking such |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. you'd think our RKBAers wouldn't be so eager to criticize dems. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. He dug his own grave with that quote |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. he didnt dig his own grave |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I wasn't talking about anyone else |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
134. What killed Clark... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Why would you think that? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 06:04 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. Deleted message |
UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. it is interesting, isn't it? nt |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
52. Source? Or is this just a humorous fiction? /nt |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Google "Heinrich Himmler german firearms" |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Source? Or is this just humorous fiction? |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:08 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Nope, real |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:11 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Every quote that is "well known" among RKBAers |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:15 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Yes, and I was the one who debunked it |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:55 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. Nor has it been supported. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Not at all |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #92 |
102. So even if your statement is a lie, what you say is true? |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-04 01:28 AM Response to Reply #102 |
225. No |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #225 |
233. So if you made it up, the "authoritarian" in question would have to be you |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 08:13 PM Response to Reply #233 |
237. No |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 05:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
98. Clark's made some doozies...like |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
15. jeez, the way things are going |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. try defending yourself against a government with tanks, missiles, etc. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Insurgents in Iraq seem to be holding their own |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. iraq, i think you'll admit, is a little different that the US. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. How so? |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. well. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I've seen both |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
54. First of all, the US army still controls a hell of a lot more of Iraq |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. And you think a majority of the US Military would fire on civilians? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 05:26 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Suppose they wouldn't - for what, then, do you need your gun? /nt |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 05:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Me? Or a theoretical anti-tyranny reason? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Let's try it again, a little slower. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Or... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 07:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Kindly explain your logic, if we can call it that. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:15 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. Federalist 46 |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:32 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. We are talking about reality in the year 2004. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Some things never change |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. And some things, such as military technology, do. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. Well, if you think that way |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 12:55 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. Wrong again. Try reading the entire post next time. |
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DavidMS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 09:43 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. To fight an insurgency... |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 05:06 AM Response to Reply #54 |
97. yer right. It's not the same. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. Once again, if the military would not cooperate |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 01:28 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. How do you figure it will not be good enough? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Too lethal against unprotected citizens such as children, |
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WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 09:16 PM Response to Reply #113 |
123. Hypothetically speaking |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 09:55 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. If you will admit that it's idiotic to pretend that Uncle Jimbo and Ned |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #113 |
132. The most inpenetrable armor system out there... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:05 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. Spin all you like. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:20 PM Response to Reply #136 |
140. heh. |
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Lefty48197 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
37. You're providing "aid and comfort" to the enemy, Jane Fonda. |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. How is that? |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 09:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
166. If you count road side bombs. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. I'll take a couple of those too! |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. You should get one then |
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Lefty48197 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 03:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. Yup. If gun nuts die martyrs like McVeigh, Koresh, and Randy Weaver did |
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goju (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Clarification |
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enfield collector (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:33 PM Original message |
mcveigh used a bomb not a gun. |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
89. his buddies in the michigan militia prefer the kind of weapons |
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goju (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. They would consider that "illegal" |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. huh? |
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goju (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Youre right |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
24. Wow. You couldn't even come up with a list of features |
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Columbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. The only way I could tell |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. More than likely the top three are machine guns |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. i would imagine they're the real deal. |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Sadly you didn't get any AR-15s |
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Lefty48197 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. You must have missed his previous post |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 06:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
66. I read his post. |
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enfield collector (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
87. gun porn |
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Lefty48197 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 03:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. Why should they be legal to own? |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. blasphemer! i can own any weapon i want! |
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goju (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. I believe the 2nd amendment |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
68. Why shouldn't they? |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
40. I believe that US v. Miller set the bar... |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. the unorganized militia? |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 03:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. As I said, current US Code... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. That's obsolete, for all practical purposes a "blue law." /nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 07:26 PM Response to Reply #57 |
70. There you go again library_max |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:02 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. We've had plenty of threads about obsolete, uninforced, irrelevant laws. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:08 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. The law says the militia is still there |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. You mean like, oh, say, the Ninth District did in the Silveira decision? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:10 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Red Herring |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:12 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Saying so doesn't make it so. /nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:22 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. The topic was federal law |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. If the Silveira decision was in conflict with federal law, |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 05:11 AM Response to Reply #85 |
99. Come on, you know better than that. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. The Supreme Court hears cases that require correction. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. You're wrong. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:00 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Stewart was a federalism case, not a Second Amendment case. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:56 PM Response to Reply #114 |
135. Sure, we went over it in Law School. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:08 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. Oh, so now we're down to "unspoken reasoning." |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. I suspect there's a reason why you cannot practice law.... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. No, I do understand the entire gist of Stewart. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #143 |
154. It's not surprising that you don't understand it.... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 09:58 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Do not! Do too! Do not! Do too! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 08:42 AM Response to Reply #85 |
101. Federal law allows states to do as they please with their own militias |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. Silveira still applies. |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #106 |
119. Certainly not .... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #119 |
127. All this means bubkes. |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-17-04 05:30 PM Response to Reply #127 |
185. Or maybe you don't have a counter-argument ? n/t |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #185 |
192. I don't know how to refute "Bblblblblblblblblblblblbl". |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:14 PM Response to Reply #192 |
195. I was sure that you didn't, the question was merely rhetorical. n/t |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #195 |
196. No one can refute noise. /nt |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:24 PM Response to Reply #196 |
197. That explains why you post nothing but noise, eh? n/t |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:29 PM Response to Reply #197 |
200. "I am rubber, you are glue." Very mature, hans. |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #200 |
202. Post #127 belongs to you. n/t |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:48 PM Response to Reply #202 |
205. Yes, in that post I indicated how little legal weight your opinion carries |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:56 PM Response to Reply #205 |
207. Post #127 - name calling, taunts, but no counter-argument n/t |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 11:01 PM Response to Reply #207 |
210. Simply the rock-solid fact that your opinion is just your opinion. |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #210 |
212. What is the meaning of "bubkes"? Is that not name calling? n/t |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 11:24 PM Response to Reply #212 |
214. God, I thought you knew what ALL the words meant. |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-04 12:05 AM Response to Reply #214 |
221. One learns something new every day. Your counter-argument is bupkes! |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-04 12:12 AM Response to Reply #221 |
222. Holy mom - a false statement, and he can't even spell it right! |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-04 01:18 AM Response to Reply #222 |
224. That is not a counter-argument, it is a rhetorical dodge... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #224 |
234. I won't be matching you useless quibble for useless quibble, that's true. |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #106 |
120. Certainly not .... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 09:57 PM Response to Reply #120 |
128. It didn't get any better the second time. /nt |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. You've missed some more recent decisions. |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Beg to differ... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. Beg to correct . . . |
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WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 03:26 AM Response to Reply #55 |
96. I beg to differ |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #96 |
107. How dare you introduce facts into this discussion? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. But that's not a militia the way you've been defining it. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 01:16 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Every able-bodied Texan is a member of the state's unorganized militia |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #110 |
115. Every able-bodied Texan is NOT a member of the Texas State Guard. |
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WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 09:08 PM Response to Reply #107 |
122. I know |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. Fine. So members of the Texas State Guard can keep and bear arms |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #108 |
121. Was Mr. Miller of US v. Miller a member of the National Guard? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #121 |
129. Why, no, he wasn't. And the court ruled against his RKBA. |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:42 PM Response to Reply #129 |
156. So you WERE just tossing out red herrings again. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 09:18 AM Response to Reply #156 |
157. The Miller decision was decided against Miller. |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 12:37 AM Response to Reply #157 |
163. But lower courts are bound by that one reason given by the Supreme |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 09:14 AM Response to Reply #163 |
164. Is a militia one person, or more than one person? |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-17-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #164 |
184. How can a right to assemble be an individual right? Duh! |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-20-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #184 |
189. Your opinion is only your opinion, |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-20-04 11:24 PM Response to Reply #189 |
191. "The right of states" is NOT "the right of the people" |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:01 PM Response to Reply #191 |
193. Amazingly enough, your opinion is STILL only your opinion. |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:13 PM Response to Reply #193 |
194. Do you deny that the Supreme Court in Miller equated... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #194 |
198. No, your opinion is still not "plain-as-day fact." |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #198 |
199. Do you deny it ? n/t |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:30 PM Response to Reply #199 |
201. I don't deny that it's your opinion. I just did deny that it's a fact. |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #201 |
203. Run it by your pals at the university n/t |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:45 PM Response to Reply #203 |
204. My pals at the university all know the difference between opinion and fact |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:58 PM Response to Reply #204 |
208. I bet they also know what "equate" means, and what equivocation means n/t |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #208 |
211. So do I, for that matter. It doesn't make your opinion into a fact. |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 11:14 PM Response to Reply #211 |
213. It is a plain fact, regardless of my opinion. But I do enjoy watching .. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 11:25 PM Response to Reply #213 |
215. And yet I continue to worry about your inability to tell fact from opinion |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 11:27 PM Response to Reply #215 |
216. At least hans has stopped pretending that all the judges are crooked |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-04 12:02 AM Response to Reply #215 |
218. What good does your advanced degree in English do you if you |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-04 12:02 AM Response to Reply #218 |
220. Answered below. /nt |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #198 |
206. Why did the Supreme Court even consider whether Mr Miller |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #206 |
209. Well, I hope you can keep numbers and opinions straight |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-21-04 11:54 PM Response to Reply #209 |
217. It is a fact the Supreme Court equated "keep and bear" with |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-04 12:02 AM Response to Reply #217 |
219. One is the subject of a subordinate clause in the introductory clause, |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-04 01:12 AM Response to Reply #219 |
223. Or more simnply put, in each case a verb form followed by an object. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 02:28 PM Response to Reply #223 |
235. As a matter of fact, "possession" and "use" are nouns, not verbs. |
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jack99 (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
56. I own them already (except the M203) |
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DavidMS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-04 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
93. Any Qualified* Person, |
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FatSlob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
100. WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO! |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:13 PM Response to Reply #100 |
138. "Mike DeSwine and Feinstein can KMA!" |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
116. Uh oh. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. OMIGOD! RKBAers make up the majority in JPS! |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Are we back to this again? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #118 |
124. I double-dog dare library_max to post it in GD |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. I don't know. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:01 PM Response to Reply #118 |
130. Nope. |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:04 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Right. |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #131 |
141. Here's my take on what people should own. |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #141 |
142. What about grenade launchers? (nt) |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. Hmmm (You got me) |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #141 |
145. rocket launchers? |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Definitely |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. yes, i think that makes sense. |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #147 |
148. Who says that it's for hunting? |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #148 |
149. why do you want a rocket launcher? |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 07:52 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. yeah i could |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. All the US case law on the Second Amendment |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 07:58 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. 2nd amendment |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 09:26 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. If I could redirect your attention from the 18th Century to the present, |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 09:23 AM Response to Reply #153 |
158. By the way, you might have noticed |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #153 |
159. well why don't you go ahead and repeal the 2nd |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. Fortunately, the Constitution is interpreted by the courts, |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. Well |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 09:18 AM Response to Reply #161 |
165. Many things are legal but not Constitutionally protected. |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 09:50 AM Response to Reply #165 |
167. As I said |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #167 |
170. You're not listening. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. Remember, you're conversing with a "pro gun democrat" |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 03:05 PM Response to Reply #171 |
174. lol |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-18-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #174 |
186. whoa, dude. "maybe your son or daughter got shot and killed." |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #170 |
173. first of all |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #173 |
178. Look, ownt, the courts interpret the law, not you and not me. |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. so what are they waiting for |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. In fact, none of them is in a militia, |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. and that's not going to happen |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #181 |
182. It doesn't have to happen. |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 09:03 PM Response to Reply #182 |
183. aww jeez |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-18-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #183 |
187. "if it's meaningless, then i'm basicly a felon..." |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-20-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #183 |
190. Once more with feeling. |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-04 06:53 PM Response to Reply #190 |
226. Rights of the people |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #226 |
236. Yes, and the amendments are interpreted by the courts. |
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EDT (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
162. Let's ban alcohol first, we'll save 1000's of times more lives in the US |
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DamnSkippy (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #162 |
168. We've got to ban cars first.... |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #168 |
175. lol |
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Garbo (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 12:15 PM Response to Reply #162 |
169. And military-lookalike vehicles..... |
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mjones (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
172. Psychos... |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #172 |
176. don't think so. |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-16-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #172 |
177. . |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-20-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #177 |
188. . |
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p0sitivevibez (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
227. NEVER |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #227 |
228. Welcome to the gungeon |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #228 |
229. There you go with your 80% again. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #229 |
230. Cry me a river, feeb..... |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #230 |
231. Why should I cry you a river? |
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anonymous44 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #229 |
232. lol |
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238. Sorry - this one got away from me |
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