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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 07:57 PM
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Besides drying out for a while, any tips on passing a piss test for weed?
Don't touch anything else, haven't in years, but will need to take one if I get offered this job for which I am applying.

Thanks in advance!
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 07:59 PM
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1. Hope you're thirsty
because you need to drink lots of water.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:00 PM
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2. I believe it stays in fat cells longer than one would think
:shrug:
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:06 PM
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9. I have heard that too; hear that exercise and possibly saunas help...
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nycmjkfan Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:01 PM
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3. I've heard
drinking some vinegar cleans you out.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:05 PM
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6. Yeah, I've heard the 'acid test' too - vinegar, cider, honey-vinegar, etc.
Will certainly be doing that in the meantime; guess one has to be careful not to overdo, or the sample can be TOO dilute, which is suspiscious as well.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:02 PM
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4. Drink lots of water -- cannabinoids are water and fat soluable
The morning of the test, make sure and go once or twice that day before you take the test. You don't want to give them the first pee of the day, since it will be the most concentrated, cannabinoidally speaking.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:05 PM
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7. Oh good thought. Tx :-)
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:35 AM
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26. Good advice BUT you can overdo it
If you drink too much water your urine will be too dilute (as measured by creatinine concentration). That can raise suspicion, but by itself cannot be used as evidence you are trying to cheat the test.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:03 PM
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5. I heard a long time ago
put a grain of salt or two under your fingernail and covertly add it to the specimen.
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Big Kahuna Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:06 PM
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8. Salvia Divinorum and Mugwort
..a little wormwood is nice too, but be careful. Go heavy on the mugwort, and light on the salvia and wormwood. (they have strong effects)

A legal alternaitive. Very relaxing blend. They give you a nice little buzz, are not very debilitating and are free, you can grow this stuff in your garden.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:08 PM
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10. 5 Gallons of water a day
Edited on Tue Sep-28-04 08:36 PM by Columbia
Don't drown.
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:10 PM
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11. Water and hope they don't use hair...nt
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:22 PM
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17. They don't; they're too cheap *lol* Pee only.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:12 PM
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12. Try looking up some anti-drug war websites, they might have some tips.
I heard about a "recipe" many years ago, that involved ingesting alot of goldenseal and some kind of vitamin B (B-1?). Was supposed to clear your system in about a week. Sorry, I don't remember more about it.

Just bear in mind, if you DON'T find something to use to speed up the process, it takes about 30 days for all traces of THC to be out of your system once you've ceased to indulge.

I wish you luck. I think piss tests are an egregious violation of our Constitutional rights to privacy and unreasonable search -- and shame on our country that such an anethema to freedom was ever given acceptance!

Anyway, at least try NORML and High Times -- SOMEWHERE on the web there is sure to be plenty of information!

sw
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:15 PM
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13. Why in the world would you work for a fuck who'd make you take one?
Just curious. I run my own company; I also enjoy the occasional 2nd hand blast of the cheeeeeb. I'll bet it's better for you than drinking excessively and doing a bunch of coke 'till you're 40, like some prominent politicians I could mention.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:22 PM
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16. I hear ya, and yes, I object to them on principle. BUT my job was out-
sourced to cheap foreign labor, and I am making less than half of what I was making on UNEMPLOYMENT for petessake, and this job pays about $6/hour more than I am making now, not quite up to the salary I used to make, but maybe enough to keep me out of bankruptcy until my temporarily disabled hubby can go back to work (he was a seasonal temp worker, so no bennies, no unemployment, and since I had been laid off and could not afford $869/month COBRA payments, no insurance when he became ill and required 3 surgeries and almost 4 weeks in hospital....*sigh*)not to mention the bennies are better than I am getting now and it's a position I would LOVE, just like my old job, and it's the devil I know, having worked for this corporation before (back in the no-peeing-in-a-bottle days)....

So yeah, I am desperate, I admit it!
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:35 PM
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20. I'd probably starve first....but that's just me....

I'm an American, and the war on drugs isn't a war on drugs - it's a war on Americans who chose to use them. It's cost us, as a country, $40Bn a year, going on 25 years now. It's a total repressive failure, and an expensive one at that.

It's a war on personal freedom.

If I drink at home, who's business is that but my own?

I could say the same thing about smoking the ganga, but I'd be preaching to the choir, I think ;)
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:14 AM
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29. some places do it not for themselves
they do it so they can do things like get gov't contracts and such. i know a friend who failed a pre-employment piss test, they called him up anyway and offered him the job, and he was an OBVIOUS stoner.

i've never heard this one from anyone else, only from "personal" experience, my girlfriend had an incident where she OD'd on some pills, she was given activated carbon to eat, the nurse told her it would purge her of all drugs.
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LibLabUK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:21 AM
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30. Activated carbon...
"she was given activated carbon to eat, the nurse told her it would purge her of all drugs."

Only the drugs that hadn't been absorbed into a her bloodstream, ie those still in her stomach or intestines.

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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:37 PM
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33. In ohio, you get a break on your workmans comp insur
if you drug test your employees.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:16 PM
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14. Skip the test and go to Alabama
You will be president one day
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:19 PM
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15. Niacin has helped some of my friends over the years
http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/legal_issues_of_drug_use/dt.html

I've never heard of it failing and it beats drinking vinegar (its available as a blood purifier over the counter).
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:24 PM
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18. Thanks, seems to bolster the post about Vitamin B above (I think they are
related - niacin IS a B vitamin, isn't it??)
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nycmjkfan Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:30 PM
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19. you must be
one of those "stoner slackers" that O'Reilly was talking about. I bet you watch The Daily show also. ;)
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Stew225 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:40 PM
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21. I saw a job advertised that paid something like
6.50 an hour and required a drug screen and background check. WTF? This is really sane, eh?
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 05:15 PM
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27. *lol* I would disagree with the 'slacker' bit, but yes, I watch the Daily
Show religiously -
anxious for payday so I can get my satellite re-hooked-up....
This under-employment shit really sucks.
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greendeerslayer Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 09:14 PM
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22. passing the test
Yes, water is good, at least 2 gallons a day, but you need to remember to take a good b-complex vitamin daily - this will get your urine a correct color so no eyebrows are raised due to a light urine color during the test. The sauna is a good idea too. Pot is stored in the fat cells, and must be burned off in a raised metabolic state. If you can find it, red clover is a very good blood purifier, and milk thistle will help the liver move the toxins out more quickly. Try to find a standardized extract of the latter, so one only have to take three pills a day. Red clover is usually pulverized and put into capsules - one will have to take three 3x daily.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 09:43 PM
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23. Stay clean, drink plenty of water
Please explore this excellent site: http://www.drugtest-info.com/
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:18 PM
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24. pay for your own piss test first. than, keep the results and if positive
Edited on Tue Sep-28-04 10:29 PM by gatlingforme
change what you must do...... basically wait for 30 days and all THC levels should be gone, take another piss test on your own, then make sure you are clean then go to do their piss test and you should be fine..... Good luck

Also, you really can't tell if you will pass or not based on whast others tell you regarding home remedies, the best is to wait and let the THC levels not be there when you do take a test and the only way to make sure you do that is to wait....


If you really need to know do a piss test yourself, (all confidential and pay with cash.) than you can only tell that way if you will pass, remember==== all piss tests by employers are or will be public....... it is up to the employer. BE CAREFUL.....
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:32 AM
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25. Home urine tests for THC cost about $7 - $12
One of the most important things to know is what drugs cause false positives on that pee test.

I discovered that a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug I take for back pain causes a false positive for THC. If you've used any cannabis within the last couple of months you do NOT want a false positive on the screening - To resolve it the employer may send the sample on to the much more sensitive GCMS test.

It would really suck to have them say "Your urine test was a false positive, but on deeper examination..."
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:54 PM
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28. I did not know that. thanks for the info... n/t
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:12 PM
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31. to clear any nonpolar (fat-soluble) compound from the body's tissues...
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 12:16 PM by NorthernSpy
... you may need to drive your metabolism hard in the weeks before The Big Day. If I were trying to clear my body of a fat-soluble substance, I would:


First, stoke the inner furnace. I would eat a fairly rich weight-gain diet for several weeks prior to the test, and I would exercise obsessively the entire time. Both physical activity and increased food intake prompt your body to raise the rate at which it burns and tries to replenish anew its energy stores. My goal would be to mobilize as much of my body's stored energy as possible.

Later, abruptly shut the furnace down. A few days before the test, I would stop most physical activity and eat very, very little. I would follow a strict regimen of hunger and laziness to drop my metabolic rate through the floor. After having spent weeks clearing out all the compound that I possibly could, I would want to put my fat cells into famine mode so that they will be very stingy about releasing any of their remaining contents into my bloodstream.

As others have noted, I would make sure that I was well hydrated before the test, and I would be careful NOT to give the test the first urine of the day. Swallowing a vitamin-B capsule the morning of the test will give dilute urine the proper yellow color. I suppose you might be able to boost the creatine content via supplementation as well, but I'm less sure on that point.


Purely tangentially now, in case anyone has an interest in this subject...

I suppose that if someone were really, really desperate to expel a nonpolar (that is, fat soluble) compound that had taken up residence in his/her fat cells, s/he might conceivably dose him/herself with something capable of blocking oxidative phosphorylation (process through which energy is stored on the cellular level) as a first step in lieu of gorging on food and exercise. I'm thinking of something along the lines of the old herbicide 2,4-dinitrophenol*, which in very small amounts causes rapid loss of stored energy (fat tissue). (This was discovered by accident decades ago, when workers who handled the chemical lost large amounts of weight if they were fat, but not if they were thin and had little fat to begin with.)

Some of the mycins also exhibit a mitochondrial uncoupling effect.

Heck... for the matter of that, some of the fatty acids you eat every day -- some are in vegetable oils, for example -- have some small ability to block phosphorylation.



Mary


* Please note: this tangential information is included only to satisfy the curiosity of readers who would like to know a little more about factors affecting metabolism. Dinitrophenol is poisonous! It is sold for lab use in metabolic studies. It should NOT be consumed. Nor should it be confused with 2,4-D, which is a different compound.

In addition to its inherent toxicity, 2,4-DNP can pose a fire/explosion risk under certain conditions. It's not something a person would want to have around the house.

I love to study this stuff, but I am not an expert on ANYTHING!


(fixed typo)
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 11:30 PM
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32. Vitamin C
The reports I have hear of state that the "baseline" for testing drugs is how much Vitamin C is in your body. The Human body does NOT produce any Vitamin C, we get it from what we eat. The body gets rid of any excess quickly, thus Vitamin C is used as a "base line" for testing other chemicals in the body. Thus drinking a lot of Orange Juice will increase your Vitamin C Base line, and thus the test results will have to be cut to reflect the Vitamin C in the test batch.

Now I read about this years ago, the Piss test seems NOT to work off how much of a drug you have in your system but if you have any (thus Over-Vitamin C will NOT help).
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:42 PM
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34. Your local head shop should have several products avail
Go for the Zydot or there is another one that is <sombodies> original formula (sorry can't remember the name - ha!)

Stay away from the teas... although they may clean you out faster, if THC is still in your system the tea may actually make it more concentrated in your urine.

The zydot stuff basically is creatine. You drink a metric buttload of water with if (follow the directions), and take the included vit B pill (to turn your pee yellow again), and you will appear clean for 6-8 hrs.

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Crachet2004 Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:17 PM
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35. If you want to be sure you pass...
You have to get a drug-free donor, male or female to pee in a bottle for you. I don't do drugs, so I have helped friends out like this in the past.

There are various kits of dehydrated urine...Minute Man, I believe it is, even comes up to temperature when you mix the two parts of it together-they check the temperature first thing after you give them the sample. I know guys who swear by Minute Man...go to your local headshop, and talk to the head that has gray hair on it. Hopefully, they can help, and won't steer you wrong. There are a lot of bad products out there, as well, and as far as I know, none of the 'home' remedies are reliable.

To be SURE, get a donor the night before, or refrigerate the sample, to keep it fresh, if the night before is impossible.

Then, get it up to room temperature, or above, at home before you go in. Put it in a GOOD leak proof bottle, then tape it under your armpit, for temperature...or just hold it there, if you think you can do it. Some people use condoms for this, as they have no irritating edges, and are therefore more easily carried.

We are subject to many drug tests in the trades. If you are a union steward, it is no big deal to help a brother out.

Why the hell it should matter what you did on Friday come the following Tuesday, is beyond me.

It is an invasion of privacy, and nothing more.

Hard drugs are Hell, but a little bit of weed never hurt anybody.

Good luck!
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 03:55 AM
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36. Wow, that is excellent advice.
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LibLabUK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:09 AM
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37. Hmm...
"Why the hell it should matter what you did on Friday come the following Tuesday, is beyond me."

When it comes to issues of public saftey such as the pilots of passenger jets, or the drivers of commuter trains, should they have anything to do with recreational drugs at all?

The problem with allowing it on fridays is that although it may not be affecting your performance on tuesday it makes detecting the guy who's still taking it on tuesday more difficult.

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