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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:36 PM
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MIT sponsoring contest to solve Israeli-Palestinian conflict
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"The Massachusetts Institute of Technology hopes to mobilize the world's brainpower to solve one of its most troubling problems: the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

MIT officials are inviting individuals or teams from any country to participate in its "Just Jerusalem" competition. The contest aims to find a way to make Jerusalem just, peaceful and sustainable by 2050 so that Palestinians and Israelis can live side by side in a city both consider their capital.

The school will accept entries between March 31 and Dec. 31, The Boston Globe reported. MIT will announce the winners next March.

Diane Davis, co-director of the project and associate dean of MIT's School of Architecture and Planning, said inquiries about entering the competition have come from the Palestinian city of Ramallah and from Israel, Ecuador, Greece and the United States."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/841333.html
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:17 PM
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1. Quick!
Somebody, send a link to Free Republic!
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:18 PM
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2. This is really cool ! n/t
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:48 PM
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3. BartCop has already solved this one.
Bart suggests that all the Jews in Israel move to Oklahoma and set up the Holy Land there. He figures that the topography of Oklahoma is at least as good as the Palestine desert, and that Jews could raise their families there without fear of attack. Of course, since Bart doesn't believe in the "invisible cloud being", he doesn't accept that God gave the Jews that special land and it is their duty and destiny to remain upon it. For that reason, Bart's solution is not acceptable to the Jews, but I bet the Palestinians would go for it.

I don't know about the Oklahomans.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:00 AM
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5. Yeah.
Some Duers seem to have no problem at all with ethnically cleansing all the Israelis. I find it as disgusting as ethnically cleansing all the Palestinians.

Screw bartcop.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:59 AM
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7. Not Israelis, Jews.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:02 AM
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8. And some DUers seem to have no problem at all with ethnically cleansing all the Palestinians...
On a large site there's always going to be a small number of people with nastyarse views that involve ethnic cleansing...

As for Bartcop, I just went over to look for what he said, but I couldn't find it. Could you give me a link to it, coz I figure you've read it? What I did notice from a quick look at the site is that Bartcop seems to have his tongue stuck firmly in his cheek and is deliberately irreverent about just about everything, so I'd like to see what he said before I came out with a 'screw bartcop' judgement...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:03 AM
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9. Did you miss where I
said that I find it as disgusting as people who excuse ethnically cleansing Palestinians. How interesting. It was such a short post.

And no, I didn't see the bartcop comments. I was going by what the poster recounted, and discussions about the bartcop remark on kos.

In any case, it's clear to me that the poster I responded to here, seemed to endorse this disgusting proposition.

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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:37 AM
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10. No, I didn't miss it at all..
Edited on Sat Mar-24-07 07:47 AM by Violet_Crumble
Nor did I comment on that bit of yr post. I pointed out something you didn't, which was that as well as some DUers supporting ethnic cleansing of Israelis, some DUers also support ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians...

I've been caught out too many times by people with an agenda telling me what someone else is supposed to have said, only to find when I go to the source that it's not the case at all, so I tend to withhold judgement until I do get it from the horse's mouth....

All the poster you responded to did was recount something bartcop is supposed to have said. There was no endorsement in the post at all...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 09:41 AM
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11. The poster said
bartcop has already solved this. That can reasonably be viewed as an implied endorsement.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 04:56 PM
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12. No, it can't be reasonably seen as implied endorsement...
They're just pointing out that Bartcop has solved it. Rather than jump to conclusions based on something from Bartcop that you haven't even read, and what could be a sarcastic comment in a post, wouldn't it make more sense to actually ask the poster themselves what they think?

Though on the subject of ethnic cleansing, I'm curious to know what you think of someone stating that in the future if a peaceful resolution to the conflict doesn't happen that Israel making conditions so intolerable for the Palestinians that they leave the Occupied Territories would be a reasonable solution. This has been said by someone in a current thread in here and that sort of statement is an example of a clear support for ethnic cleansing...
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:01 PM
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4. You know what's really depressing about this?
The date. By 2050?

Why not solve the I/P issue by the end of 2007.

It seems to me that if they could just get back to where they were during the Rabin and Barak administrations, when progress was being made and there was relative peace and little terrorism, we could have much shorter horizons.

Everyone knows exactly what the solution is, but it's perplexing that no one seems to want to actually implement it.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:25 AM
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6. I'd Imagine People Living In 2050 Will Look Back Upon This Era
And wonder why it took so long to resolve this issue. If you look at this conflict in a vacuum, this conflict is probably one of the simplest to resolve.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 09:21 PM
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13. Stupid
Everyone knows the solution - it's finding the will to get there that's the problem.
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