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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 07:48 PM Original message |
IDF soldiers refute claims of immoral conduct in Gaza |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. We know those Gazans committed suicide or self-immolated |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 04:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. of course, the IDF was ordered to murder as many civilians as possible in cold blood |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. What you are defending are nothing but a bunch of Hebrew-speaking Freepers |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 06:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. your hate-filled demonization efforts are 10X worse than RW freeper Islamophobes |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. "RW freepers excel at demonizing the entire collective" - an exra special quote |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. yeah, sucks when you're busted for your freeper attitude vs. Israel, huh? |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. got me! |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. yes, I did....and now the elders of zion know about you....better watch it! |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. It was the same tactic used in Lebanon, kill civilians, destroy infrastructure so |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
3. Let's play Spot The Bullshit... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
4. If you can't discredit at least try to obfuscate |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
5. IDF in Gaza: Killing civilians, vandalism, and lax rules of engagement |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
7. Another report here too from NYT: |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
8. Video - BBC report "Israeli troops admit Gaza abuses." |
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grassfed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. oh good. for a minute there I was concerned. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
14. Whew! Thanks for clearing that up Oberliner! |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Believe what you want to believe |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:47 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. And what's yr opinion on the article you posted? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I think it's helpful in trying to sort it all out |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:02 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I don't think this article falls into the helpful pile... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Thank you for sharing your thoughts |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Most troubling is the array of evidence pointing to a sea change in IDF culture. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Prejudice and hate is always disturbing |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. So you see no changing culture within the IDF? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Well, I am no expert on the IDF and I'm not an Israeli |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. now you see a change in the IDF? |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. The concept of "hate" is meaningless. Certainly the implementation of Zionism was racist, as the |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Israel gets no credit for being so openly critical of itself |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. That's right Shira. Criticizing itself after the massacre doesn't bring the dead back to life. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. you don't think Israeli self-criticism led to inaction for 8 years against |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. interesting how some discount this rebuttal to the 2 major charges |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
34. The only thing to believe is that the US gives Israel $3 billion a year |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. That money could have gone to Bear Stearns! |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
35. It's not immoral if it's done to Palestinians. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
36. Oh good, dueling IDF soldiers. |
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