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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 11:37 PM
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VIDEO: After shooting one demonstrator, Israeli soldiers call out, 'Do you want more gas?'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlbzuZ_50mU&eurl

This is a fuller video than the short, shocking video we posted last night depicting the killing of Bassem Ibrahim Abu Ramah yesterday at the weekly protest of the confiscatory wall in the West Bank village of Bil'in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_doUOCJI12s&eurl
The video shows plainly that the demonstrators were not violent. Here is a rough translation of the words on the video, supplied by an anonymous friend:

The demonstrators are telling the soldiers in Hebrew that there are children and Israelis present and they are asking them not to shoot. Bassem is shouting "listen, wait a minute, wait a minute" before he falls to the ground. The soldiers then fire another round of tear gas as the demonstrators yell that he is injured and needs an ambulance.

In the longer video, as Khatib is arguing with the soldier, I can't make out all of it because they're talking over each other, but you can clearly hear the soldier say, "do you want more gas?" They can see someone is on the ground and bleeding and because they know it's a Palestinian, they don't care.

And the soldier is telling Khatib "Are you going to shut up?" as Khatib pleads with him to stop shooting. The Israeli who's next to Bassem right after the shooting is just saying, there's an injured man, bring an ambulance quickly. He asks Bassem where he was hit. The demonstrators also repeat throughout, this is a non-violent demonstration. The soldiers merely respond with teargas.

http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/after-shooting-one-palestinian-demonstrator-israeli-soldiers-call-out-do-you-want-more-gas-.html#more

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 11:41 PM
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1. Goons and pigs.
Edited on Sun Apr-19-09 11:42 PM by sakabatou
Idiot IDF...
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:43 AM
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2. Evidence of increasing violence toward non-violent protestors...
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:02 AM
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3. I'm trying to imagine the outcry if...
If Hamas murdered an non-violent Israeli protestor.

But when Israel murders peace activists, they just get away with it and you don't hear much on the news.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 04:29 PM
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4. The most important thing is to clarify whether or not the teen threw a rock at a tank first. nt
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 04:31 PM
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5. Indeed, the tank could have been gravely harmed.
Tanks are expensive too, and the drivers are sensitive about insults.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 04:52 PM
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6. It's important to be 100% accurate in our discussion of any action that could remotely be considered
criminal or violent if it was perpetrated by a Palestinian.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:21 AM
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11. The real equivalent would be...
if Hamas murdered a non-violent Palestinian protestor.

And that's hardly hypothetical - they do plenty of killing of their own dissidents!
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:04 PM
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7. The longer video has been removed from youtube
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 05:05 PM by azurnoir
because of "user protest" and the shorter one has been removed because of "terms of use" so all video evidence has been effectively erased, now for the parsing from the "friends of the IDF" brigade
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 10:56 PM
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8. LONGER video still up as of 9pm PST
Their protests produce pyrrhic victories. The tide is turning.


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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 03:54 AM
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9. Thanks I watched it
unbelievable the soldiers continue to fire even after the man is down
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:20 AM
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10. Disgusting.
There's a scandal going on in Britain too, over the death of a demonstrator at the G20 protests.

This use of violent force on demonstrators is horrible.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:22 AM
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12. Sorry for the off-topic post...
..but I read that he wasn't even demonstrating, and that he was a newspaper seller on his way home from work...
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