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henank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:09 AM
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Joseph's tomb compound vandalized
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3705477,00.html

Hundreds of Jewish worshipers who arrived at Joseph's Tomb in the West Bank city of Nablus overnight were stunned to find the compound severely vandalized – yet again.

Israel pulled its forces out of the compound in October 2000. The IDF disallowed Jewish worshippers from entering it for a long period of time due to security concerns; and deserted, it has been burnt down and defaced many times.

December of 2008 saw Joseph Tomb's restored and the military began allowing worshippers to visit it once more, but always at night and under heavy military guard, for their own safety.

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The group which entered the compound was made up of some 500 people. Upon entering the tomb they found it had been defaced – the headstone smashed and swastikas sprayed on the walls, as well as graffiti of a blood-dripping sward over a Star of David, and another "trampled" by a boot.

Some reported seeing visible boot prints all over the compounds, which they claim are consistent with the Palestinian police standard issue boots.

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Yossi Dagan, of Homesh First, added that "if Jews were to even to consider inflicting one-tenth of this horror on a tomb of an Arab sheik, the entire world would get up on its hind legs and protest. What's absurd is that we are to blame, since even the Oslo Accords place the tomb under our responsibility."


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:11 AM
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No More Bushbots Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:16 AM
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2. Isn't there also Christian Palestinians?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:21 AM
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4. There most certainly are. Yassir Arafat's wife was one. nt
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:08 AM
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5. Damn few and dropping fast in numbers
Hamas is actively persecuting non-Muslims. Don't even mention the word Ba'hai unless you want to see fireworks.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:55 PM
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8. here is a Zogby poll of Palestinian Christians in Bethlehem
http://openbethlehem.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=113&Itemid=17

When asked about the reason that caused almost 400 Christian families to emigrate in the last few years as shown in the United Nations report 76.4% of the population in general respond that the Israeli aggression and occupation is the main cause of emigration rising to 78% among Christian respondents and only 3.1% blame it on the rise of Islamic movements. 12.1% believe that it is because of the two above-mentioned factors together.

Concerning the question whether any family member has had land confiscated by the Israeli authorities to build the Wall, settlements or by-pass roads 13.9% answered that many relatives have had their land confiscated, 26.8% answered that they have some relatives whose land has been confiscated, 8.7% answered that they have one relative whose land was confiscated. However, 54.7% of Christians answered that they have at least one relative whose land was confiscated as opposed to 37.7% among the Muslims. 20.1% of the Christians say that many of their relatives have emigrated recently, as against 5.4% Muslims responding to the same question.

"The first question was directed to Muslims asking if they have Christian friends, 87.5% answered that they do have Christian friends, whereas 12.5% answered that they do not have Christian friends.

The second question was directed to Christians asking whether they have Muslim friends, 92.2% answered that they do have Muslim friends, whereas 7.8% answered that they do not have Muslim friends."


"76.4% believe that the main cause of the emigration of 400 Christian families in the past few years is due to the Israeli aggression and occupation,

3.1% only believe that it is due to the rise of Islamic movements.
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66% of the Christians believe that Israel deals with the Christian Heritage of Bethlehem with brutality or indifference."The first question was directed to Muslims asking if they have Christian friends, 87.5% answered that they do have Christian friends, whereas 12.5% answered that they do not have Christian friends.

The second question was directed to Christians asking whether they have Muslim friends, 92.2% answered that they do have Muslim friends, whereas 7.8% answered that they do not have Muslim friends."


"76.4% believe that the main cause of the emigration of 400 Christian families in the past few years is due to the Israeli aggression and occupation,

3.1% only believe that it is due to the rise of Islamic movements.
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66% of the Christians believe that Israel deals with the Christian Heritage of Bethlehem with brutality or indifference."The first question was directed to Muslims asking if they have Christian friends, 87.5% answered that they do have Christian friends, whereas 12.5% answered that they do not have Christian friends.

The second question was directed to Christians asking whether they have Muslim friends, 92.2% answered that they do have Muslim friends, whereas 7.8% answered that they do not have Muslim friends."


"76.4% believe that the main cause of the emigration of 400 Christian families in the past few years is due to the Israeli aggression and occupation,

3.1% only believe that it is due to the rise of Islamic movements.
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66% of the Christians believe that Israel deals with the Christian Heritage of Bethlehem with brutality or indifference."The first question was directed to Muslims asking if they have Christian friends, 87.5% answered that they do have Christian friends, whereas 12.5% answered that they do not have Christian friends.

The second question was directed to Christians asking whether they have Muslim friends, 92.2% answered that they do have Muslim friends, whereas 7.8% answered that they do not have Muslim friends."


"76.4% believe that the main cause of the emigration of 400 Christian families in the past few years is due to the Israeli aggression and occupation,

3.1% only believe that it is due to the rise of Islamic movements.
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66% of the Christians believe that Israel deals with the Christian Heritage of Bethlehem with brutality or indifference.

link to full poll results on PDF file:

http://www.openbethlehem.org/images/stories/OpenBethlehemFinalReport.pdf

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:20 AM
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3. I think it's time to put in a few well-concealed lipstick cameras with night vision capability....
to say nothing of an alarm system.

Contentious location. Apparently it's noted in the Oslo Accords. Some interesting background here, with some links at the bottom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph's_Tomb

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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:18 PM
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6. "...the entire world would get up on its HIND LEGS and protest."
Sweet imagery, Yossi. You make a great spokesman for your cause.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 01:54 PM
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7. Perhaps he was trying for "rear up in protest". n/t
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