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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:52 PM
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West Bank rabbi: Jews can kill Gentiles who threaten Israel

By Haaretz Service
Tags: West Bank rabbi

Just weeks after the arrest of alleged Jewish terrorist, Yaakov Teitel, a West Bank rabbi on Monday released a book giving Jews permission to kill Gentiles who threaten Israel.

Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro, who heads the Od Yosef Chai Yeshiva in the Yitzhar settlement, wrote in his book "The King's Torah" that even babies and children can be killed if they pose a threat to the nation.

Shapiro based the majority of his teachings on passages quoted from the Bible, to which he adds his opinions and beliefs.
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"It is permissable to kill the Righteous among Nations even if they are not responsible for the threatening situation," he wrote, adding: "If we kill a Gentile who has sinned or has violated one of the seven commandments - because we care about the commandments - there is nothing wrong with the murder."

Several prominent rabbis, including Rabbi Yithak Ginzburg and Rabbi Yaakov Yosef, have recommended the book to their students and followers.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1126890.html
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dschis Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:57 PM
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1. Yep
We Christians have em too. Why should the Jews be left out of the party.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:05 PM
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What's the ratio of
Jews advocating death to moslems and vice versa?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:05 PM
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2. This word would be better off without religious radical nuts. Sorry, this really angers me.
There are no borders for religous radical nuts.

That story announces that some more people have declared war on fellow humans.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:06 PM
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3. Truth to peace
my brother.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:08 PM
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4. Another classic example of a shanda fur die goyim.
Oy
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:11 PM
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5. Right-wingers in every religion suck. (nt)
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:38 PM
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6. Well isn't that nice.
Thanks a lot, Rabbi.

:thumbsdown:
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:10 AM
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7. *s are like, well... *s, everybody's got one and they all stink. n/t
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:52 AM
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8. Gotta love a country with 300 million people.... for producing the exceptional whackjob
I refer of course, to the Jewish (American citizen) convert to Islam in New York, whose name thankfully escapes me at the moment. This afternoon I heard that he was celebrating the Hasan murder spree in Ft. Hood.

The report said that this semi-verbal New York shithead has posted a video of himself eating popcorn watching Daniel Perlman on TV being beheaded.

And speaking of shitheads, if one more shithead says "chicken come home to roost" I hope someone takes him down to the concrete.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:23 AM
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10. What's yr opinion of the OP? You seem to have totally ignored it...n/t
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:22 AM
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12. I think I was acknowledging the occasional nutjob.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:42 PM
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14. You didn't answer the question. What's yr opinion of the OP?
Try to do it without trying to change the subject to Muslims. I want to know what you think about the nutjob in the OP.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:51 PM
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15. He has a lot less power than the pope.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:55 PM
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16. You really can't bring yrself to speak out against Jewish religious extremism, can you?
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 02:57 PM by Violet_Crumble
Yet when it comes to anything Muslim, yr all over it like a rash. Read the OP. The man advocates murdering people. It's incredible that you appear to have nothing to say at all about that...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:58 PM
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:10 PM
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18. How is the world's largest matzo ball Jewish extremism?
How about sharing yr opinion of the Rabbi in the OP who's advocating murdering people? If he was a Muslim, you'd be acting very differently right now...
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:22 PM
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21. I must have been thinking about extreme Jewishism. Silly me.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 01:30 AM
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22. Yep, clearly when it's a Jew advocating the murder of people it's trivial to you...
Sorry, but yr posts at DU are revolting and it was no surprise to me to find you in one of the big forums appearing to try to justify racist violence against Hispanics...
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 02:45 AM
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25. You're comparing this psycho to people to the preparation of a giant matzoh?
You can't really think this is THAT trivial.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 05:26 AM
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29. Apparently they do think it is that trivial. Which really comes as no surprise...
I took a look at some of their 'contributions' upstairs, and there's a common theme of intolerance towards minority groups running through all of them. I'm actually gobsmacked that anyone would treat someone advocating the murder of children and babies as being a trivial matter to be joked about....
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 02:43 AM
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24. Although, unlike the Pope, we can assume he's usually wearing pants.
...just sayin'...
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:56 AM
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9. Listen to this bullshit. It's hard.
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 12:59 AM by imdjh
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:26 AM
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11. your point being?
and I will agree the bullshit that is posted here by "some" is hard
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:29 AM
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13. is anyone really surprised by this?
im sure not.
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Sezu Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:45 PM
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19. The guy is obviously a moran and
an extremist like the kind that pop up in almost all religions. Thank G-d he and his are a huge minority in Israel.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:55 PM
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20. They're a huge minority in Israel coz like him they're in the West Bank n/t
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 02:41 AM
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23. Er...BABIES can pose a threat to Israel?...
:wtf:
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 04:11 AM
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26. Maybe he, the Imams who preach Jihad and the Christian End-Timers can all go live on an island.
Away from the normal folk.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 05:03 AM
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27. As My Old Friend Mr. Absynthe Used To Put It, Ma'am
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 05:03 AM by The Magistrate
Some people need a 'dirt nap' from which they can wake up truely refreshed in a brand new life at some other station on the Great Wheel....
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 05:18 AM
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28. Totally off-topic, but I miss Absynthe....and Aidoneus..and Ad Jameson...
I think I had a thing about DUers whos usernames started with the letter A....
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 06:35 PM
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30. If and when this jagoff kills a bunch of people, he'll be equivalent to Major Hasan.
Until then, he's just a wannabe.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 09:51 PM
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31. IDF Chief Rabbi: Troops who show mercy to enemy will be 'damned'
The Israel Defense Forces' chief rabbi told students in a pre-army yeshiva program last week that soldiers who "show mercy" toward the enemy in wartime will be "damned."

Brig. Gen. Avichai Rontzki also told the yeshiva students that religious individuals made better combat troops.

Speaking Thursday at the Hesder yeshiva in the West Bank settlement of Karnei Shomron , Rontzki referred to Maimonides' discourse on the laws of war. That text quotes a passage from the Book of Jeremiah stating: "Cursed be he that doeth the work of the Lord with a slack hand, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood."

In Rontzki's words, "In times of war, whoever doesn't fight with all his heart and soul is damned - if he keeps his sword from bloodshed, if he shows mercy toward his enemy when no mercy should be shown."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1128144.html
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