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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 04:43 PM
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IDF soldier jailed 10 days for throwing stone at Palestinian
The Palestinian man was filming the soldier stationed in Hebron on behalf of the Israeli human rights group Betselem when the initial incident took place.

By Chaim Levinson and DPA


An IDF soldier was sentenced to ten days of incarceration in an army jail for throwing stones at a Palestinian man in Hebron. According to the website Hakol Hayehudi, the soldier was guarding a IDF station in the city when a Palestinian cameraman working for Israeli human rights group Betzelem began to film him.

In the one-minute-long film, which Betzelem uploaded to its YouTube channel on Thursday, the solider is seem to respond with little amusement to the filming, and at one point he tosses a rock in the direction of the cameraman.

About 800 Jewish settlers, protected by a heavy Israeli military presence, live in Hebron's historic centre, among tens of thousands of Palestinians. The city was divided into Israeli- and Palestinian-controlled sectors under a 1997 agreement.

The Palestinian man submitted a complaint to the army, and in response the commander of the soldier’s battalion decided to jail him for ten days.

An IDF Spokesperson relayed, “Upon receipt of the video and a complaint in the matter, an investigation was launched in order to identify the soldier and bring him to justice. It was a serious incident, in complete opposition to the army’s instructions, the spirit of IDF, and what is expected of IDF soldiers. The IDF rejects all unnecessary acts of violence.”

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/idf-soldier-jailed-10-days-for-throwing-stone-at-palestinian-1.396890
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 07:00 PM
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1. he's being punished for not shooting the Palestinian instead.
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Mosby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 11:53 AM
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9. yeah that must be it
Cuz as any good american progressive knows the israelis are the most bloodthirsty people on earth.
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 08:38 PM
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2. The difference between Israel and the PA
The PA would have awarded the man a medal or bought him a house.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 11:20 PM
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3. Are you for real? Palestinians who throw stones are terrorists?
btw, I've been meaning to ask. You never refer to Palestinians as Palestinians, but as the Arabs. Why's that? It's kinda weird in the same way as those folk who never refer to Israel as Israel but as the Jews.
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:08 PM
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5. Yes, Arabs who throw stones with the intent to kill innocent Israelis is terrorism
People die from stones being thrown at them.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:34 PM
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6. Once again why do you refer to Palestinians as generic Arabs?
are you denying the Palestinian identity?

as to the Palmer incident it would seem Israel changed its story as at one point the claim was that it was the rock rather than the car crash that killed Palmer but now its the crash

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=373404
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 10:03 AM
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7. Guns never kill anyone, it is those fast-moving bullets that are the problem
What significance is it that the rocks thrown at Palmer did not directly kill Palmer versus the rocks thrown at Palmer resulted in the fatal crash?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 11:07 AM
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8. Once again you did not answer the first question
as to the death of Palmer and his child the stories changing nature calls the veracity of the accusations into question, or at least should to those not looking for a 'quick justice' but then again you dseem to think they're all just Arabs so any 2 will do?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:47 AM
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14. I'm taking a safe guess that it's a denial of Palestinian national identity...
Not as in yr face as the advocates of Greater Israel who refer to Palestinians as 'so-called Palestinians' or insist on putting dit-dits around the word Palestinian whenever they use it, but I'm suspecting they're all coming from the same dark place....
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 08:17 PM
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10. Does not mean that throwing stones is not an extremely violent act
Of course some people here on DU believe the rockets from Gaza are the same as fireworks.


:eyes:
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:36 AM
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12. Let me guess. Only Palestinians, not Israelis throw them with the intent to kill
You clearly have no grasp of what the definition of terrorism is, and seem far too eager to label any violence carried out by a Palestinian (btw, you never explained why you only ever refer to Palestinians as Arabs) as terrorism. I didn't realise that using yr 'logic' that the kids who threw rocks from a bridge over the Hume Highway and killed a driver were terrorists. Or is it only Arabs who are terrorists? Surely not, because that would reek of a fair bit of bigotry.
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 08:20 PM
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11. Some people do not even believe those firing rockets at Israel are terrorists.


In the ISM training manuel a few years ago , recruits were told not to criticize Suicide Bombers (perverts).
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:39 AM
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13. And some people do not believe any Jews can be terrorists...
And some people believe that someone who comes straight out and says they hate Muslims isn't a hater of Muslims.

btw, I'm guessing you know as little about the ISM as you do about the definition of pervert...
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 08:42 AM
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16. Ha Ha
That was a very smart post.

;)
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:47 AM
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15. Unfortunately, there are some very big supporters of the ISM's vile work here at DU/IP
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 06:35 AM by shira
The Palestine Solidarity Movement: Advocacy and Facilitation of Terroristic Violence
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/14579590/Palestine-Solidarity-Movement-advocacy-and-facilitation-of

The same ISM that proudly supports antisemites like Gilad Atzmon...
http://engageonline.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/us-boat-to-gaza-proudly-presents-antisemite-gilad-atzmon-at-its-fundraising-party/

The very same ISM that arranged FreeGaza by working closely with their friends in the Turkish IHH and Hamas
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/smoking_gun_the_free_gaza_move.html

Check out the pics from the last link.

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Nice "progressive" advocates for the Palestinian cause. Hardly different in ideology than their friends in Hamas, who also support a Jew-hating and Jew-free Palestinian regime with an atrocious illiberal track record on women's rights, gay rights, children's rights, and minority rights.

If you can't tell the difference between these Leftwingers and hard Rightwingers, don't worry - there is no difference.
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:03 PM
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18. True, moral equivocation is a bulwark of anti-semitism
Throwing stones with the intent to kill is the same as using a Qassam rocket. Pretending that stone-throwing is a benign past time for school children is disingenous.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 12:50 AM
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4. So odd, in so many different ways. nt
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 10:36 AM
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17. Israel routinely jails Palestinian children for far longer for the same offence. N.T.
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