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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 06:32 PM
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Turkish PM: Israel treating Palestinians as they were treated
Turkish PM: Israel treating Palestinians as they were treated

By Hanoch Marmari, Haaretz Correspondent



ANKARA - Israel is not contributing to the peace process, is killing women and children indiscriminately and destroying Palestinian houses, in short, treating the Palestinians as they themselves were treated 500 years ago, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said in an exclusive interview with Haaretz.

In his first interview to a member of the Israeli media following growing tensions in bilateral relations sparked by Israel Defense Forces operations in Gaza, Erdogan says there is is no way to describe such actions except as "state terrorism."

The interview in Erdogan's office here comes a week after the Turkish prime minister met with Infrastructure Minister Joseph Paritzky and asked him: What is the difference between terrorists who kill Israeli civilians, and Israel, which also kills civilians?

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/434975.html
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 07:19 PM
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1. The Turkish PM is lying.
This thread's work is done.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 07:54 PM
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2. What is your basis for this charge?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 08:26 PM
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3. To Be Fair, My Friend
The Turkish Prime Minister could have remained within his own tradition, and said, for example, Israel was treating Arab Palestinians like the Turkish Republic treated the Smyrna Greeks. Even that would be a grotesque exaggeration, but it would show some real historical perspective....
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:44 AM
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12. How is that lying?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:48 AM
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13. Where, Ma'am, Do You See Me Accuse Him Of Lying?
He has engaged in an excessive hyperbole, one which it could be reasonably argued distorts the case past any recognition, but that is not, strictly speaking, a lie.

No Turkish government official is very well placed to make stirring denunciations of any other state's maltreatment of its opponents, external or internal. The modern Turkish record of atrocious repression against Kurds, the earlier excesses of the Republic against Greeks in Anatolia, and the Ottoman genocide against the Armenians, still officially denied to be anything but the suppression of a rebellion, renders any protestation from such a source rather hollow.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:25 PM
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18. Very sloppy work, I must agree.
However, no worse than most of the bilge we see in the "News" these days.
It's nice to see Turkey assume the role of human rights advocate,
a rather novel idea, but I suppose one we should encourage as long
as it is done consistently.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 08:48 PM
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4. Self-revised (original comment based on a mis-reading).
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 09:05 PM by Jim Sagle
No evidence is available that Israel is doing indiscriminate killing (except in random, individual cases).
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 09:32 PM
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5. LOL!
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:00 PM
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6. Self Delusion RAAAWWWKKKKSS
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:02 PM
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:09 PM
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9. Nice one Jim
the debaters answer to "I know you are but what am I" :eyes:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:00 PM
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10. Always high-level gum-flappin' at the I/P Corral!
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 02:02 PM
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14. this is the forum where everything ain't nothin but a piece of poop
:evilgrin: :smoke: ;)
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 02:05 PM
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16. "no random killing...except here and there"
:crazy: That's like being a little preggers, Jimbo...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 07:28 PM
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:04 PM
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8. "What is the difference"
A dead civilian is a dead civilian. That is clear. But how the battle came about in the first place is also an issue to be brought to bear on the question of the "most guilty" party.

If one must bear with continued killings of innocent people for fear that someone else might die, that leaves a tyrant on the loose.
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 01:36 AM
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11. Nice Haiku...
:crazy: Makes no sense, but has rhythm...
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 02:04 PM
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15. yep
Makes no sense, but has rhythm,...yep ;) :smoke:
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