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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 10:53 PM
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We don't need a new investigation.
We need a strategy. We have a finite window of opportunity to get criminal proceedings under way (realistically, until primary season heats up in the fall) and if we haven't gotten the wheels turning by then we may not get another chance until President Hilliani or whoever the MIC-CIA-MSM installs is swept out in '012.

And we can stop worrying about lost metallurgic evidence and radiation readings--we don't need them. There's plenty of conclusive evidence already. A glance at a photo of any of the debris piles tells you everything you need to know. Subpoenaed documents will only underscore the extent of the cover up.

And who the heck still needs convincing that 9/11 was an inside job? Anyone who doesn't know by now who authorized it is dealing from the bottom of the deck. So please let's cut to the chase and figure out a way to force Congress to impanel a grand jury, or whatever the hell it needs to do, and get the damn thing started.
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 02:16 AM
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2. Ballot initiatives.
That is what Vermonters did.

Look:

http://www.vt911.org/
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:36 PM
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7. I'm surprised Leahy did not support this.
This is a great idea but it would take a lot of time and groundwork--it's only possible when there are elections and only works if they pass. But I have no doubt one would sail through in a place like Berkeley or San Francisco.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 02:33 AM
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3. '012?
 
dailykoff wrote:
... we may not get another chance until President Hilliani or whoever the MIC-CIA-MSM installs is swept out in '012.

Will the MIC/CIA/MSM no longer exist in 2012? Or will they somehow just have less influence on the 2012 election?

- Make7
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The Lone Groover Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 02:47 AM
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4. When did "the people" ever change anything without a leader?
The people need a person. A leader with the wherewithall.

Where are today's MLK's?
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 02:49 AM
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5. Howard Dean says we have to do it ourselves.
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 02:51 AM by Contrite
He says we can't look for someone to do it for us or to lead us.

In fact, one of the mechanisms he has suggested for change is the ballot initiative.

Of course, if our elections weren't rigged we might have a better chance of getting something passed but it's worth a try.

The rules on starting one in your state are available on the Internet.

Here are some more suggestions from the Vermonters:

WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR 9/11 TRUTH

If you agree that there is a need for a new, thorough, and truly independent forensic investigation that fully addresses the many questions surrounding the tragic events of September 11, 2001, there are several things that you can do.

> Download, copy and distribute our flyer.

> Educate yourself about the problems with the official story of 9/11 by viewing and reading the material referenced and linked throughout this website.

> Discuss this issue with your friends and colleagues and encourage them to visit this website.

> Write letters to local and national media telling them why you think we need a new 9/11 investigation.

> Tell the local and national media that you are interested in coverage of the 9/11 Truth movement in Vermont.

> Obtain copies of the films listed in the videos section of this site and distribute them. (Note that some films are copyrighted while others are free to be copied.)

> Arrange showings of some of the films at your home or another appropriate meeting space near you and invite your friends and neighbors.

> Contact your state and federal elected officials, provide them with information about this issue, and tell them that you would like them to support a new investigation.

> Start a 9/11 Truth organization in your town or area, or contact us if you would like to find out more about what you can do in Burlington. Here is a website designed to support 9/11 Truth groups and group organizers: http://www.911truthgroups.org/


> Donate to Vermonters for a Real 9/11 Investigation.

> For information about an initiative for an independent investigation in New York City, visit http://www.911initiative.org/



http://www.vt911.org/what%20you%20can%20do.htm
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 01:54 AM
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10. NO!
> Start a 9/11 Truth organization in your town or area, or contact us if you would like to find out more about what you can do in Burlington.

If you want to have any realistic chance at all of initiating another 9/11 investigation, one thing you must do is completely disassociate yourself from the "truth movement."
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naboo Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:01 AM
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6. I think a lot of the 9-11 "leaders"
are infiltrators from intelligence organizations, unfortunately.
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:07 PM
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8. Which ones do you suspect?
I've heard this before but I haven't really seen any names attached to the charge.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 12:02 AM
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9. We have some good leaders, but yeah we need more.
I'm thinking of David Griffin, Jim Fetzer, Kevin Ryan, Steven Jones, and the other Jones who have already done more than their share. These guys are making personal sacrifices to get the word out, some huge, and by and large they're succeeding. I'd count Judy Wood in that group as I think her ideas are more true than not. And there are others.

But an elected official willing to step up and get the ball rolling would be great. Cynthia McKinney is fearless so naturally the Neocons had to drum her out of DC. I have a feeling she'll be back though, maybe even as the truth teller the consters are so mortally afraid of!
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