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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:42 AM Original message |
Dov Zackheim is NOT an Israeli citizen. |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm sure Wayne Madsen quakes in his boots |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Let's be honest--the reason people have said that Zackheim |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. Gee, haven't seen this one before |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. When people stop assuming Jews |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Why should we prove you wrong? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. The accusation is of dual-loyalty. |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Many neocons quite obviously have dual loyalty. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. People are using Zakheim's fictional dual-citizenship |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Nonsense |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. So, we agree that his citizenship is irrelevant |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Why not go into the remote control issue? Dov the CEO of SPC |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Two points: |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 09:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Didn't you see that? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 09:41 AM Response to Reply #35 |
60. Thanks so much reorg |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-18-04 09:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. There are also movies at Dryden of the CID... |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. "There is no indication that the kind of technology exists |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 09:54 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. So I see. |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-17-04 04:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
62. Why do you need to use remote control? You could just put the waypoints |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. If Zakheim & his neocon crew have OBVIOUSLY strong Israeli sympathies. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Dual loyalty is a very serious charge. |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. You do yourself no favors when you dispute the obvious. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Where is the dual loyalty? |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. His loyalty is to the hardline elements of the Likud Party. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. You still have provided no evidence that he is loyal to Israel to the Bibi |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 06:18 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Deleted message |
geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 07:27 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I'd rather defend an allegedly corrupt Neocon |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 08:53 AM Response to Reply #51 |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
5. It's amazing what |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Indeed. |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. What's more amazing is how quickly coincidence theorists resort to |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. The Zakheim dual citizenship rumors have their origin with Neo-Nazis and |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. But the man obviously HAS dual loyalties. So why does it matter if he |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. How does he OBVIOUSLY have dual loyalties? |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Perhaps he just thinks that anything that's good for the Likud Party is |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 07:34 AM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Where is your evidence of that? |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 07:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Broad Brush? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
7. fringe journ.dubious histories of accuracy - former intelligence officer |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Still fringe and unreliable. |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Did you read the entire article? |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. yeah, so? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Credible? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. More publications that think Madsen is credible |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. So, everything he says is automatically true? |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. My God, you just love wrestling those strawmen, don't you? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Other than Wayne Madsen, is there any evidence that Zakheim |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. To me, it's a non-issue. The issue is dual loyalty no dual citizenship. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Well, dual citizenship is the prime evidence of dual loyalty. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
17. He did find $28 million dollars to give to Israel for automatic gear |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. So what? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
33. Dov Zakheim did step down and is under investigation |
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RebelYell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 09:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I seem to remember |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. That goes without saying. |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. It goes beyond the Bush Administration. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Do you have evidence for that? |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 06:04 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Evidence? Are you now suggesting that this man's clear penchant for |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 07:28 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Corruption does not equal "dual loyalty." |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-13-04 10:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. $2.3 trillion |
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DulceDecorum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
55. WHY IS THIS IN THE 911 FORUM? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Because his citizenship is raised by CT'ers to prove |
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DulceDecorum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 01:05 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. WRONG FORUM |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 01:07 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Isn't he Mr. Remote Control Airplanes? |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-17-04 03:21 AM Response to Original message |
61. I saw Madsen on TV once. He had a foot-long handlebar moustache. |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-18-04 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
63. who cares if he is , ... |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-20-04 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
65. Oh, now I get it. |
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