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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 09:32 AM
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Former U.S. spy linked 9/11 terrorists to Canada
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/623559


Former U.S. spy linked 9/11 terrorists to Canada


There has been a lot of huffing and puffing in the media and in Ottawa and Washington this week about the "9/11 myth." The myth, born in the hours after the terrorist attacks on the entrepreneurial, political and military epicentres of the United States, is that several of the 19 murderous fanatics who orchestrated the mayhem on Sept. 11, 2001, slipped into America from Canada.
That myth was given renewed life earlier this week when the newly minted and haltingly ill-informed U.S. homeland security secretary, Janet Napolitano, parroted the falsehood in a CBC interview. Napolitano's remarks have provoked a flurry of diplomatic backtracking and tsk-tsking from the usual political and so-called national security pundits who populate the airwaves these days. But lost in all the hyperbole and the media-propelled outrage has been an exploration of the myth's genesis. That's not surprising because many of the players in the media and in political capitals now hurling stones were complicit in promoting and providing sustenance to the myth. The hypocrisy has, at times, been breathtaking.

How do I know this?

I was one of the many reporters on both sides of the 49th parallel who relied – regrettably – on the top-tier and still unrepentant U.S. spy who was largely responsible for giving birth to the myth. On Sept. 12, 2001, Vincent Cannistraro, a former CIA chief of counter-intelligence used the press as his megaphone to tell the world thirsting for information about the hijackers that five of them had entered Maine from Canada via Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, and/or a remote border point near Jackman, Maine, several hundred kilometres southeast of Quebec City. "What we know is that a five-man cell came to Maine from Canada," Cannistraro told a Montreal newspaper. "Now obviously there are two ways of doing it, by ferry or by land. I don't know which one it was but I know that the investigators believe they came from Canada." The 27-year CIA veteran said the same thing with the same conviction again and again to any newspaper, television and radio reporter who had his number.

In my front-page dispatch quoting Cannistraro, I qualified the ex-intelligence officer's certainty at the urging of a more skeptical colleague who insisted that we include a quote from a Canadian security official who bluntly declared that Cannistraro was wrong. "They didn't hijack Canadian planes," the rankled Canadian spook told us at the time. "They got through airport security in the U.S., not here."

Unfortunately, we buried that quote and, as a result, the truth.

In any event, when more doubt was raised about Cannistraro's information by Maine police and the state's governor, the ex-spy and long-time ABC World News consultant on espionage and terrorism stuck to his story like glue, insisting that his sources had no reason to mislead him and that the governor was out of the loop. The damage, however, was done. A myth had begun to take root as Cannistraro's explosive tale garnered instantaneous media traction and political momentum.

....

"We know," Day said a few days after the attacks, "that Canada is seen as a soft spot ... of undesirable people, possibly criminal elements, being able to gain access to our country."

Today, in the aftermath of Napolitano's grating comments, Harper and some of his cabinet members who once condemned Canada as a "soft spot" for terror, have been busy instructing their man in Washington to disabuse the Obama administration of the notion that Canada was or remains a soft spot for terrorists. In other words, Harper has mobilized the diplomatic and political machinery at his disposal to try to finally shatter a frustrating myth that senior members of his government once enthusiastically promoted. In time, it became apparent that Cannistraro and his sources had peddled crock. To my knowledge, the former spy has not admitted his colossal error and it certainly hasn't prevented reporters from continuing to seek him out for advice, counsel and his ever-ready quotes. I learned my lesson. I never contacted Cannistraro again having concluded that despite his credentials he was unreliable. Unfortunately, the myth he spun lives on in the minds of Napolitano and many other American decision-makers.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 09:53 AM
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1. She "parroted" the 9/11 myth? Not hardly.
The person asking her questions inserted it into what she was saying. You could interpret her answer as a clumsy way of reminding the questioner that there were more terrorists than just the 9/11 terrorists.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:27 AM
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5. Ha, only if you really, really, wanted to
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captainjack08 Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:06 AM
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2. Canada like the USA involved with agent provocateuring...
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 03:02 AM by captainjack08
9/11 patsies. That where this back and forth comes from between U.S. intelligence and Canadian intelligence. Yes, technically Canada apparently did not have terrorists cross the border into the U.S. for 9/11 but Canada can be said to be where part of the Al-Qaeda terror mythology took root with French help.

A case can be made that Canada played a big part in pushing the Al-Qaeda terror propaganda on the world with the help of French intelligence.

In the late 90s the French were in Pakistan like everyone else spying on possible terrorists.
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=ahmed_ressam

Including working out possible terror links to Ahmed Ressam who would be one of the first in a series Al-Qaeda hype propaganda boogeymen on the way to framing up Iraq for 9/11.

Dec. 14th, 1999 : Seattle FBI arrests Ressam, John O'Neill brings French Investigator into mix
As chronicled in a multi-part Seattle Times investigation, The Terrorist Within, by Hal Bernton, immediately after Ressam was arrested on December 14, 1999, John O'Neill called up the Seattle-based FBI agent assigned to the investigation, Fred Humphries, and hooked Humphries up with O'Neill's friend, the powerful French anti-terror prosecutor, Jean-Louis Bruguiere. Humphries, who seemed to be "out of the loop" as regards the complexities of the terror networks, was taken by the hand by Bruguiere, and pointed in the "right" direction - that is, toward the evidence showing the full depth of Ressam's connections. On the very night that Humphries first met up with Bruguiere in New York City, O'Neill orchestrated a four-alarm, razzle-dazzle show of FBI authority that could not have failed to make an impression on the novice agent Humphries
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP310A.html

JEAN-LOUIS BRUGUIERE - FRENCH CRYPTO ANTI-COMMUNIST FASCIST
Who is Jean-Louis Bruguiere? He's a rightwinger who has made a career of spinning controversies to limit damage to French national interests irrespective of the laws. He played a role in the coverup of the sabotage of UTA Flight 772 in 1989 and was intrumental in having six Libyans prosecuted in Paris and convicted in absentia and possibly covering up evidence pointing to Lebanon, Syria and Iran in order to put the focus and the blame on Libya.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Louis_Brugui%C3%A8re

He is known since 9/11 to have a habit of picking up van-loads of suspects in spectacular raids.

"People are indiscriminately arrested, often in violent conditions," says Patrick Baudouin of the Paris-based International Federation of Human Rights Leagues.

"Examining judges are supposed to keep an open mind during their investigations, but according to Mr Baudouin, French anti-terror judges systematically side with the prosecution."

"They prepare extremely long, complicated questions, provide the answers themselves, and then ask - what do you say about this?" he says. "There is no real dialogue with suspects."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3031640.stm

And he played a key role in providing evidence to tie soviet intelligence to an attempt to assasinate the pope. Unfortunately right wing anti-communist hijinks exposed by La Repubblica show that this whole affair was possibly an attempt to discredit Italian leftists.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article740181.ece
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitrokhin_Archive

So who is this Jean-Louis French asshole? An xenophobic French guy who rounds up Arabs and gives them sham trials in order to divide the French against their Arab population in the name of French national interests.

So this French xenophobe along with John O'Neill are pivotal characters in the effort to frame up an Arab menace in the months before 9/11.

THE CANADA-FRENCH CONNECTION:
Thereafter(after the 1999 Ressam arrest), Bruguiere led Humphries to his associates in the Canadian intelligence service, who furnished Humphries with the evidence of Ressam's Montreal "cell." Then Bruguiere provided Humphries and his assistant a refresher course in the Terror Story, bringing them to Paris where they could likewise be fed the latest information from the "official" French intelligence dossiers. Back stateside, Bruguiere kept on with the Ressam case, furnishing the prosecution - and the media - his expert take on Ressam's fit in the overall al-Qaida puzzle.

"If Bruguiere had given Humphries the initial impression that Humphries was receiving a fully independent assessment from the Canadian intelligence service, well, that wasn't exactly the case either. As chronicled in Bernton's Seattle Times investigation, only a few years before - back in the summer of 1996 - it was Bruguiere who had first contacted the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), informing them of his belief that "terrorists had formed a 'cell' in Montreal. In particular, Bruguiere told CSIS, watch for a man named Fateh Kamel."

"Bruguiere led the skeptical Canadians to an apartment he dubbed the "appartement de conspiracie", among whose occupants was the aforementioned Fateh Kamel and his protege, Ahmed Ressam. At Bruguiere's urging, the Canadians proceeded to monitor the apartment for a period of two years, amassing a "400-page file on the men who came and went from the apartment." Though impressively thick, the file contained little more than the macho rantings of men whom the Canadians considered to be petty thieves and immigrant visa violators at the worst."

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP310A.html

PATSIES AND AGENT PROVOCATEURS
Interestingly this man named Fateh Kamel who Bruguiere told CSIS to watch, was watched, captured in 1999 and then released right back to Canada so he could be "watched" again. See the pattern?

"Kamel returned to Canada on January 29 2005. Conservative Public Safety critic Peter MacKay urged the government to revoke his citizenship and deport the "bad dude" to Algeria.<9><1> Some critics alleged he was being allowed to return simply to allow the Canadian Security Intelligence Service to track his movements to discover future plots.<10>"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fateh_Kamel

Fateh Kamel, the ringleader was released in 2005 back to Canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fateh_Kamel

Ahmed Ressam the patsy is in jail until July 2019.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Ressam

Again, the pattern is clear what is going on. Western nations use agent provocateurs to round up patsies, ensnare/entangle/associate them with terrorist activities, so that the west has a reason to expands its wars. The provocatuers are released, shuffled around, or allowed to escape and go into hiding so they can be used again.

Fateh Kamel: Seeding the evidentiary trail for the next 9/11?
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_116.shtml

2006 TORONTO 18
The Canadian RCMP and CSIS did just what the FBI did with Whitey Bulger, Emad Salem, Ali Mohammad, Andreas Strassmeier and how many other Agent Provocatuers? They found an agent provocatuer and paid him to create and round up some bad guys.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Toronto_terrorism_case
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-kFa2RiZ08&feature=related
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6518912/The-Toronto-18Final

Canadian CSIS pays two thugs 4.5 million to roundup paintball patsies
One conclusion that can be made from the video below is that Toronto religious mosques were essentially used as snares to bring in muslim youth and radicalize them. Exactly like the FBI had done with white supremacists at Elohim City. And exactly like mosques in the UK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byLpo9z-HGo

A month after the Toronto plot was unmasked, the Miami 7 plot was unmasked. Another fake plot run by agent provocatuers paid by the FBI to find and entrap a group of would be terrorists.

The provocatuers were paid well:
Miami 7 : Sears Tower Plot
* First informant, Abbas al Saidi(Yemeni), received $40,000.
* Second informant, Elie Assad(Lebabese), received $80,000.<16>

CHENEY/RUMSFELD PROOF THEY TORTURED SUSPECTS TO GET CONFESSIONS
Which brings us back to today and why this Torture story was so damn radioactive. Up until the pork panic, the news that was dominating the mainstream airwaves was the story that Cheney, Rumsfeld and others KNOWINGLY were torturing people to force confessions for something they didn't even do. We all knew that! But now they put the documentation out on the table and what we all suspected all along is true. Corrupt elements within the U.S. government was totally willing to frame innocent people for acts done and masterminded by someone else.

Was Mohammad Atta a paid agent provocateur? Was Osama Bin Laden a paid agent provocateur? Was Al-Zarqawi an agent provocateur? Was Haroon Rashid Aswat? Melvin Lattimore? Is Pakistan a country protected by the USA and its allies to pump out agent provocatuers?

See how all of the agent provocateurs at the top planning operations get away, go missing, or wind up Emmanuel Goldstein type characters like Osama that continue to be pushed by western powers to create fear in the population to keep us at war?

Why did the FBI let Whitey Bulger get away? Where is Ali Mohammad? Where is Osama?

But back to the OP...maybe the 9/11 hijackers didn't walk across the Canadian/U.S. border to catch planes. But the Canadian CSIS and RCMP(and the French Spider in the middle Bruguiere) are not free of guilt in the part they played in framing patsies and hyping the phoney terror war.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:09 AM
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3. Excellent thanks captainjack08
:hi:
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captainjack08 Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 01:44 AM
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9. thanks!
you may not totally agree but thanks for the shout out...

So tired of the "CONSPIRACIESLOLOLOLO!HAHALOLZ" idiots
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NowHearThis Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:33 AM
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4. Now Captain, you know that Uncle Sam doesn't use patsies...
agent provocateurs, PR firms, disinformation agents by the hordes, and our CIA certainly wouldn't ever pay terrorists/assets (e.g OBL), and of course our country never conducts false flag operations such as 9/11. There are plenty of usernames (who knows how many different people those names represent) here at DU who would tell you that if you just ask. Actually, you don't even have to
ask them. They'll tell you every chance they get. After first insulting you and belittling your ideas, opinions, and research.

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 10:12 PM
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6. We "belittle" your ideas because they are...
incredibly goofy.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 02:11 AM
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10. Right On, I love it
If you have some game that can shoot down what I said then post it. Otherwise take your fetal-alcohol damaged brains and stupidity somewhere else and crap on threads. If you have some science or facts to debunk what I posted then bring it and enlighten me, most people open to conspiracies other than TROLLS keep an open mind and remain skeptical about what is going on in the world. And if you don't have something to add then take your 3 word sentence fragments somewhere else.
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captainjack08 Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 04:00 AM
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11. Pattern Recognition within Conspiracies? Why so much hate?
Edited on Thu Apr-30-09 04:24 AM by captainjack08
Thanks. Glad you got a laugh. Seriously, what harm is there in saying, hey I see a connection between A and B, and pointing it out? And then being curious about what is going on under the hood.

People act like the concept of Pattern Recognition, which Conspiracy Theory is a subset of, is some great evil. Like we all need to be reduced to idiots dependent on masters to tell us when they are lying or not regardless of what we are seeing with our own eyes in full view and plain sight.

Scientists tell us they are recreating 1918 flu virus in case an epidemic hits and a couple of years later an epidemic hits and you better shit your pants and buy Swiss Tamiflu like the Swiss WHO tells you to because this of course is the big one even though its not really an epidemic like we usually think of because this epidemic seems to be racist because it only kills Mexicans in large numbers but then the WHO says it only killed 7 Mexicans not 200 but still we'll raise the threat level to 5 out of 6 even though no one is really dying in large numbers.

And on top of that another Swiss guy and a guy from New Jersey tell us today that the dinosaurs never really died from asteroids. And I'm not anti-Swiss or anti-New Jersey even though Phil Graham helped send U.S. tax dollars to Swiss banks.... but you know what? Too much info for one week. Someone tell the Swiss to go fuck off and let people take some time to get their shit together and stop reordering the goddamn worldview every goddamn fucking 5 minutes.
http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/healthandscience/autocodes/countries/switzerland/dinosaurs-not-killed-by-asteroid--$1291006.htm


Jesus Christ Folks, open Your Eyes and Look at the World for What it is!

There are some out there who would let this entire country and the world completely disintegrate rather than open their fucking eyes and realize their entire house is full of shit and maggots and that it long overdue for cleaning.

Florida and Toronto.

Like i said. both locations were caught with their pants down paying agent provocateurs to run around scooping up morons and training them to do evil things. WHY? What is going on in those two places that there is this urgent need to create bad guys? Might it be because something else is going on there that they want to distract us from? Or that they want to have a set of patsies on hand to take the blame for instead of the true perps and masterminds?

June 2nd 2006 - the Toronto 18 "terror cell" is rounded up and arrested

June 22nd 2006 - the Miami 7 "terror cell" is rounded up and arrested

So approximately two weeks after a phony Toronto frameup occurs a phony frameup occurs in Florida. WHY? Were they coordinated? Was one playing off the other? Are they connected? I see something here in A that looks just like B. It is just a coincidence or is there a reason this rises up in this manner? An underlying function or process going on generating a similar solution?

Of course Florida is the epicenter of everything strange in the USA, stolen elections, 9/11 hijackers, heroin plane busts, frameup of patsies, missing kids, terrorists-in-training on military bases or around them like Tyndale...

Obviously the reason why Florida looks like America's nutty molestor uncle from hell is because there are a ton of hidden things going on there that in order to keep hidden we are lied to over and over and over again and no one does a goddamn thing to correct it until the lie becomes so overblown and ridiculous that it has become outright monstrous.

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captainjack08 Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:32 PM
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16. meanwhile in South Florida... Dutch politician Geert Wilders
Edited on Thu Apr-30-09 10:42 PM by captainjack08
Geert Wilders Dutch Parliamentarian, is in South Florida stirring up arab hate in America. I wonder why he is in South Florida. Oh yeah.. because South Florida is SOUTH FLORIDA.

http://regions.adl.org/florida/news/adl-wilders-remarks.html - april 28th 2009

I wonder if that has any connection to Dutchmen Rudi Dekkers who trained Arabs in flight schools in south Florida pre-911? If there is a Dutch-South Florida "a-rab" hate connection?

:shrug:

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 06:52 AM
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12. ''truther logic''
''if someone disagrees with me, the only possible explanation can be that they are a rw troll. it can't be that i'm simply wrong on the facts''.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 08:12 PM
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13. Kick
""The government would never do anything wrong. They never have and you can't prove that they ever have.""

It's all so very clear now thanks to the debunkers and those who believe in the Bushco OCT.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 08:15 PM
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14. "The government would never do anything wrong. They never have and you can't prove that they...
ever have".

Another one of your stupid strawman arguments. Please find anyone who has ever said anything remotely like what you claim. Please be specific. I await your non-response.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 08:44 PM
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15. Say it?
The board is full of it. They are to chicken to say it, tho, because they know they'd be run out of here and then they'd have to go somewhere else for their entertainment.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:48 PM
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17. Oh, so they DIDN'T say it? You just "know" they want to, but they're "too chicken"?
So you didn't tell the truth, yet once more. Is there no end to your dishonesty?
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