Extreme makeover? (Dial-up warning)

[Subdivisions]

[SDuderstadt]

1. what is your point?

That Olson is still alive?

[Subdivisions]

4. I don't have a point. The images aren't mine. Just submitted

for comment. I think there are some resemblances but I'm not sure the comparison is valid.

[SDuderstadt]

7. Then why did you post them?

why make people guess at your intent? In other words, just more of your bullshit.

[Subdivisions]

8. Can you read? I said why I posted them. For comment. And, it's not MY bullshit.

The images were produced elsewhere.

[Ohio Joe]

10. It is your bullshit

When you post without source, it is yours.

[SDuderstadt]

11. It IS your bullshit if...

you post them for no reason.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

49. I think she looks lovely

much better in her new life

[Ohio Joe]

2. uhhh

Do you honestly expect anyone to think this is the same woman?

I find this smearing of the dead to be a truly obscene habit of the truth movement, simply vile.

[SDuderstadt]

3. I couldn't agree more...

and I absolutely despised Barbara Olson when she was alive. This is the kind of bullshit that makes the "truth movement" such a laughingstock.

[Subdivisions]

5. I really don't care what y'all think. n/t

[greyl]

48. I don't think you care what YOU think.

There's no evidence that what you post has gone through any kind of analysis or thoughtful consideration.

Really, it matters more that you're careful about your own thinking than bothered that people disagree with you.

[Subdivisions]

6. You know what's vile? What's vile is

factions of our government murdering thousands of innocent people so that they could advance their vision of world domination, as per PNAC!

That's what's fucking vile! But NOOOOOOOOO! You and you ilk would prefer to circle your wagons around those of us who don't buy the official line instead of circling them around the perpetrators, inside our government or not.

[Ohio Joe]

9. oh, that explains it

You post obvious shit that can have no other purpose then to smear the dead and then instead of having the balls to at least try and back up your bullshit, you back off with "I don't have a point. The images aren't mine. Just submitted for comment. I think there are some resemblances but I'm not sure the comparison is valid.".

Just fucking disgusting, you should be ashamed.

[Subdivisions]

15. Well, I'm not ashamed. But, if you'd like to kick my ass, name the location. n/t

[Ohio Joe]

18. ahhh...

Talk shit... Have nothing to back it up... Resort to violence... Now lets see... where have I seen that tactic used before...

[Subdivisions]

19. I don't know, Where HAVE you seen that before?

I'm not advocating violence. But you seem to be pretty passionate when you said "Just fucking disgusting, you should be ashamed." I thought perhaps you'd like club me for it.

[SDuderstadt]

22. No, dude...

You called OJ out. Be a man and quit pretending it was the other way around.

[Subdivisions]

24. You guys are really good. Too bad for you that you're so transparent. Renders

your efforts ineffective.

[SDuderstadt]

25. Speaking of transparency...

did you notice when you posted this that the two women don't look remotely the same age?

[Subdivisions]

27. Now that is the goofyest thing I've seen you say today. n/t

[SDuderstadt]

30. Let me get this straight...

do you believe they look remotely close in age? If they don't, why would we need to compare facial features? Wouldn't that be the ''goofyest'' thing to do?

[Subdivisions]

31. Compare the features or don't. I don't care what you do.

If someone else who doesn't adhere to the OCT wants to discuss this, I'll be glad to discuss it with them. But I won't discuss it with you because nothing you say relevant to 9/11 holds any credibility whatsoever with me.

[SDuderstadt]

35. Prove that I ''adhere to the ''OCT'', dude...

If you'd pay attention, you'd find I typically take issue with the more outrageous claims of the ''truth movement''. That doesn''t mean I ''adhere to the OCT'', mostly because I don't believe there is such a thing. It only appears to be that way to folks like yourself who divide the world into your ''there is no debate'' truth and the ''OCT''.

It must be nice to live in such a black and white world. Kinda reminds me of Obama's predecessor.

[Subdivisions]

38. You are not the subject of this forum. Nor am I. I don't care to prove

anything about you. I don't have to justify my reasons for being here nor do I have to tolerate your "Obama's predecessor" insults. Get over yourself.

[Bolo Boffin]

20. Um, where have you seen that before?

The Bush Administration's case for the Iraqi war comes to mind. Was that what you were thinking?

:D

[snooper2]

65. Arlington is about halfway between us

:rofl: :rofl:

Oh, and I just sent a chemtrail your way FYI :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[SDuderstadt]

12. When you have that smoking gun...

let us know. Otherwise, this is just your conjecture.

[Ohio Joe]

14. Bullshit

I have freely admitted there are questions that deserve an answer. What you are pushing here is a "no planes" pile of crap that smears the dead, that you later admit you don't buy. You should be fucking ashamed.

[Subdivisions]

16. Well, I'm not ashamed. BTW, why did you find it necessary to post

twice here?

[CJCRANE]

13. Interesting...nt

[Subdivisions]

17. Would someone please take the second image and do a

layered tracing of the mouth area creases of Booth and then superimpose it on the image of Olson, please. Also, include the bottom line of the nose and the point of the chin.

I've done it and it's a perfect match relative to the supposition that these are two different people.

[SDuderstadt]

21. Why did you do it, then?

I thought you claimed this wasn't YOUR bullshit.

Simple question...are you claiming Barbara Olson is not dead?

[Subdivisions]

23. I did it out of curiousity...duh! And NO. I am NOT saying Olson is alive.

Is there a problem with discussing these similarities? If it's not the same woman, then we move on. But, if it is, then we have a problem. But your bullying is not going to stop me from what I'm doing here no matter how hard you or Ohio Joe try to shame me or imply that what I'm doing is here comparable in any way to Von Brunn.

Now, do you deny the similarities between these two women? Have you done the comparison I asked for?

[SDuderstadt]

26. No, dude...

because they don't look remotely the same age and Barbara Olson is dead. You should think of these things when you post crap like this and don't disclose your intention to the reader.

[Subdivisions]

28. I don't care what you think or say. I'm not talking to you. As far

as I am concerned, you (and your ilk) are not a credible voice in the 9/11 debate. So, while I may respond to your jibberish, substantive discussion with you is not my goal.

[SDuderstadt]

29. Well, it's pretty clear that substantive discussion...

is not your goal, inasmuch as you've declared ''THERE IS NO DEBATE''. Do you really think debate is remotely possible with someone as closed-minded as yourself? If you're here for debate, then why are you here?

[Subdivisions]

32. NO. Read it again. Substantive discussion with YOU or your ilk is not

my goal. I'll be glad to discuss it with everyone else.

Why am I here if not to debate? I'm here to discuss this issue with people who agree with me. My goal is not to debate. My goal is to find grounds for a new investigation based on my belief that PNAC (or associates) commited the false-flag attacks of 9/11. Debating you is a waste of my time since you have nothing to say that I care to hear on the matter.

For instance, look at this thread so far. We haven't been discussing the substance, ie: the comparison photos of Lady Booth and Barbara Olson, you've been attacking me and I've been responding, albeit not quite in as professional manner as you've been trained to do. Fact is, I'd like to know if this comparison is valid or not. But, I'd like the opinion of my peers and not the opinions of those whose mission it is to derail all substantive discussion.

I won't be wasting any more of my time in this thread responding to your obfuscations. But, thanks for playing anyway.

[SDuderstadt]

33. ''I'm here to discuss this issue with people who agree with me''

Simple question. How do you expect to learn anything if you never talk to those of opposing views and dwell in an echo chamber of homogenous views? Why do you have such a hard time answering hard questions? Is your close-mindedness defeating your search for ''truth''?

[Subdivisions]

36. I'm not interested in anything you have to say relevant to 9/11.

How hard is that to understand. I don't have to be here based on what you want. I'm here based on what I want. It's that simple. To wit: I don't have to discuss it with you and I don't have to debate it with you.

[hack89]

40. That's one way way to hide the flaws in your theories. nt

[SDuderstadt]

41. That's funny...I see you jumping into posts I've made...

that weren't addressed to you, dude. Am I to assume that you reserve the right to engage me but I can't engage you? Isn't that kinda one-sided and, frankly, hypocritical?

Maybe you'd be better off petitioning DU for a special place where ''truthers'' can bask in conjecture, speculation and supposition with no checks and balances. Your aversion to real debate is noted and, frankly, not that surprising. In the meantime, feel free to post bullshit photographic comparisons with no hint of why, specifically, you posted, then act wronged when someone calls you on it.

[Subdivisions]

43. I'm glad you got that out of your system. n/t

[jberryhill]

63. Apparently, Ted Olson has a "type"

Which is not unusual.

[hack89]

34. Since Barbara Olson died on 911, what's your point? nt

[Subdivisions]

37. I would rather not discuss substantive issues regarding 9/11 with you.

Your position is steadfast. I won't change your mind and you sure as hell won't change mine. So, anything you and I have to say to each other is, quite simply, a waste of time.

[hack89]

39. Its Ok - I know you need an echo chamber

Is it ok if still chime in now and theN?

[SDuderstadt]

42. Actually, you CAN change my mind...

It's called a smoking gun, not the ''truth movement's'' smoke and mirrors. See, unlike you, I'm actually open-minded. Surely you must be able to describe the evidence that could change your mind...right?

[Subdivisions]

44. Oh, I'm open-minded. Just not with you or your ilk. n/t

[SDuderstadt]

46. Dude...you claim to be open-minded but...

your exact words were, ''THERE IS NO DEBATE''. I'd love to see you square that circle. An open-minded person would, of course say, ''there is debate''.

[Bolo Boffin]

45. I see what you mean.

They both have an eye. They both have a nostril. They both have a cheek. They both have a corner to their mouth. They're both extremely fuzzy.

The evidence is clear.

[greyl]

47. Now that is some really fucking stupid shit. nt

[SDuderstadt]

50. I'm pretty sure that Lady Evelyn Booth's parents, relatives and friends...

can easily establish that she just didn't pop-up after Barbara Olson died. You "truthers" really believe and push some really stupid shit. There's just no other way to say it.

[Subdivisions]

51. Fact is,

I never said it was the same woman. I'm pretty sure Olson died at the Pentagon. Like I said, it's something I ran across on another site and I wasn't convinced, and I'm still not convinced, that these two women are one and the same (I won't tell you which site, but I'm sure you know how to Google. I found it on the first page using the obvious keywords.). But there are similarities. So, in order to get other opinions, I posted it here for comment. And I fully expected the barage of attacks I've sustained since.

Instead of addressing me politely and firmly and presenting your case for why we should not consider these similarities, as is the custom in, say, GD, so far all you (and your cohorts) have done is attack me for posting it. As usual. Because that's all you EVER do is attack people on this forum. Shame too, because it's such an ineffective a tact considering I'm willing to be convinced that my ideas concerning 9/11 are groundless. I'm normally a very reasonable person. But y'all just can't be nice. Instead of reasoning, you insult. Instead of engaging the debate, you dis-respect and discourage. Yet, I'm the one that's vile.

What-ev, dudes.

[SDuderstadt]

52. Look at your fucking OP....

and tell us what we were supposed to think. You posted the stupid thing with "extreme makeover?" and not much of anything else. tf were we supposed to think? Are you really trying to blame us for YOUR poor writing?

[Subdivisions]

53. I can not respond to your message like I want to without getting TSed. So,

see ya.

[SDuderstadt]

54. Which is what you get for posting an incoherent OP....

and not being civilized enough to merely admit it. Instead, you have to pretend it is everyone else's fault. Moral of the story: when you're posting something, make it clear why you're posting it. That way you won't be misinterpreted, which you fully deserved in this case. If you can't 'respond the way you want to without being TSed", perhaps you should consider some sort of anger management classes. They would probably do you good.Did it ever occur to you that people have a right to hold views counter to yours?

[Kalun D]

55. They are Similar

With some plastic surgery it seems possible they could be the same, not likely but possible.

Was Barbara Olsen's DNA found at the Pentagon?

This could also be disinformation to discredit truthers

And with all the lies contained in the OCT who can trust anything they say?

I will only believe Olsen died in the crash if her DNA is there.

And spare me the phony outrage about questioning our corrupt government

they're the Death-Skulls that killed 3000 people on 911 to foment wars for oil and imperial conquest.

[SDuderstadt]

56. "Was Barbara Olsen's DNA found at the Pentagon? "

Yes, dude...Jesus.

[KDLarsen]

57. *giggles*

This is as good as those who are obsessed with low resolution screenshots of someone talking to a camera as an eyewitness, possibly looking like a D-list actor.

[SDuderstadt]

58. Dude...look closely at the ''picture'' on the bottom right...

Do you notice that it has both of her two upper front teeth positioned to the left of her nose?

[LARED]

59. This is a real contender for

dumbest OP by a CT'er in a long time.

I mean other than the ears, eyes, teeth, mouth, looking nothing like each other the similarity is striking.

[SDuderstadt]

60. It's not just a real contender....

it's a runaway cinch...of course, Subdivisions is still claiming he just posted it to "get comment". Of course, if that was his actual intention, one would expect he would actually state so in the OP.

[Liberal_Dog]

61. This Is A Little Too Soap Opera-esque

nt

[jberryhill]

62. What's not at all surprising....

...is that Ted Olson married a woman bearing some degree of resemblance to his deceased wife.

But, still, Ron Jeremy looks more like Khalid Sheik Muhammed, than these two women.

[dbonds]

64. I don't think they match up well.

The teeth are different, the pupils of the eye is different, the ears are different. And those are hard to change. Plus the picture with the lines on it has the faces at different angles, which kind of invalidates the geometric size up it is attempting.

[snooper2]

66. So this is how you spend your Sunday afternoons

:rofl:

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:rofl:

[greyl]

67. Hey, what happened to the funny pictures? nt

[SDuderstadt]

68. The "perps" got to them and did away with them before the "truthers"

got "too close to the truth".

[Bolo Boffin]

69. I still have part of one.

[SDuderstadt]

70. Yeah, but you're one of the "perps" so....

that doesn't count. BTW, tomorrow night's cover-up planning session has been moved back to the same night next week as all of us are too busy with fresh ops.

[greyl]

71. I'm sure Subdivisions will be along soon to give thanks for preserving his work.

By the time he reads this, it will be too late to protect himself from the sinister pixels added to the picture.
Bwahahah!

[SDuderstadt]

72. Damn you, Greyl . . .

why don't you give away ALL our secrets?