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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 03:26 PM
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Head of German Intelligence Agency attacks U.S.A. about bin Laden
It is my "favorite" magazine - der "Spiegel".

They are always kean to drop as many CIA-lies as possible, to tell the Germans we are "conspiracy theorists". Now they must admit:

U.S. troops helped Osama bin Lden to escape from Tora Bora. That is exactly what we say since years. Until now it was "sonspiracy theory" to call Osama a CIA-asset.

Now things begin to change. Mr. Hanning is the head of the BND, that is the intelligence agaeny for foreign countries.

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,350826,00.html

This is a desaster for the "Spiegel". People will begin to ask WHY did the U.S. help Osama. So many questions...
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 03:38 PM
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1. Yikes
Will this EVER make it to CNN?

snark
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 03:59 PM
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2. Attempt at translation
Most important part. Head of BND speaking :

"The basic error was done allready in November 2001, when they were going to capture Bin Laden at Tora Bora. Bin Laden bought himself out of it."

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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 10:15 PM
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3. This was so obvious, Kerry even made it part of his campaign.
And of course he was mocked for being a conspiracy theorist!
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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 02:10 AM
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4. yes. He calls it an "error"
Edited on Tue Apr-12-05 02:16 AM by medienanalyse
otherwise it would disturbe the transatlantic relations deeply. Like i.e. Mrs. Vollmers words.
The "Spiegel" provides -like some other papers - some of its Articles in English themselves. Have a look into the English "Spiegel". And have fun. http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,350763,00.html

Both views are not based on evidence. But whose view seems to be realistic - Mr. Broders or Mrs. Vollmers ?
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Borg Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 04:32 PM
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5. Very interesting,
but don´t forget that this interview was given to the newspaper "Handelsblatt" and not to the "SPIEGEL".

The Link: http://www.handelsblatt.com/pshb?fn=tt&sfn=go&id=1019646

This short message is an insider joke. The german intelligence gives advices to the State Department: Don´t disturb our economy (for example the Putin - Schröder deal) and we keep silence about your 9-11 activities. The German "Realpolitik" fights against the Bush Crusade, very interesting.

See also this Thread (in german):

http://p079.ezboard.com/fphantome71967frm1.showMessage?topicID=1205.topic

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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 10:43 PM
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6. Have you heard about the FBI telling German police that
the Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile?

"- in early 2003, the FBI told German police the flying object that hit the Pentagon was a U.S. Air Force cruise missile..."

http://www.gallerize.com/
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meppie-meppie not Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:49 PM
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7. damnit! I don't speak German so I haven't got a clue of what that
article or web site is saying :(
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:01 PM
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8. Translation
(Warning Babelfish used, so the sentences aren't perfect - to say the least, but read between the lines and you'll understand)

Federal Intelligence Service boss Hanning certifies the US government omissions with the hunt for Osama is shop. Therefore the Qaida leader could itself redeem 2001 of its arrest in Afghanistan.

Berlin - of a fundamental error of the USA with the fight of the Islamic terror the president of the Federal Information Service (Federal Intelligence Service) speaks, August Hanning. He said to the "trade paper": "the error in principle was already committed in November 2001, when one is shop with Tora Bora of the Afghan militias arrest to let wanted. There is shop for much money of those could redeem itself." Subsequently, the Top terrorist in the Afghan developed itself border area of Pakistan its own infrastructure.

The USA had persisted so far in it, it are not not clear always whether are shop in the tunnels of the Afghan mountain fortress Tora Bora found actually at that time. After medium reports of at the end of March confirmed itself the suspicion however. In a document appropriate proofs should be summarized against a terror-suspicious held in the military prison Guantanamo Bay.

The USA had persisted so far in it, it are not not clear always whether are shop in the tunnels of the Afghan mountain fortress Tora Bora found actually at that time. After medium reports of at the end of March confirmed itself the suspicion however. In a document appropriate proofs should be summarized against a terror-suspicious held in the military prison Guantanamo Bay.


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