If we were to stage a protest on 9/11/03, what would our demand be?

[Stephanie]

I'm imagining a protest in NYC this coming 9/11/03. How would you focus it? So many questions, but the most immediate, and most palatable for the gen'l public, would be, IMHO:

1. Release the 28 pages!

2. Release the August 6th briefing!

3. Release the Energy Report!

If the President has nothing to hide, why is he hiding??

How would you focus the message of a protest for that day? It has to be simple. How would you pose it to people to get them to come out?

I really think we might need to make this happen.

[Pallas180]

1. IMPEACH BUSH , RUMSFELD, CHENEY FOR LYING TO GET

US INTO A WAR FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THEIR PERSONAL
WEALTH.
On Edit - and Ashcroft , all four for violating their
oath to protect and uphold the Constitution of the
United States

[Dancing_Dave]

2. Good questions!

If as many people turned out to demand a more real investigation of 9/11/2001, as turned out on 2/15/2003 to oppose invading Iraq, that would really have enormous repercussions around the world. A very live and pressing issue now is that the way the Bush Regime "responded" to 9/11 resulted in another Vietnam on top of another Hiroshima...an endless war against local guerillas who want their independence, and the American troops fighting them exposed to very long term toxic effects of the Depleted Uranium weapons used during the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. So connecting in these issues, could certainly improve the turnout.

Here's another even more live and pressing angle for folks who actually live in New York City. There are going to be some very long term bad health effects on thousands of New Yorkers, thanks to toxins released on 9/11, and the way the Bush Administration tried to cover this up and throttle the EPA. I've already started another link here about this very important issue. Fortuneately, the New York Times is now under some new management and they now seem interested in covering this important hidden story. But people who really want to find the truth and protect themselves will still have to do some internet research. Why not just get out on the streets and warn all your fellow NYC citizens about the problem?

The reason that some people got tired of the movement demanding to find the hidden truth about 9/11, is that it only seemed to lead to rather limited official investigations, and then the Bush Administration has bogusly tried to hide some of the most important results of these investigations, by classifying whatever it didn't want the people to know in the name of national security. It's a cover-up scam that's way worse than anything pulled by President Nixon! A lot of young people now wonder if their whole future may be Sacrificed for some totally bogus reason. So there are lots of reason for the people of New York to get out and protest!

[westerby]

3. More demands! 28 pages are only a small part of obstruction!

The 28 pages are only a part of the problem. They are the result of an investigation with a rather limited scope (i.e., intelligence community).
But not only in this area exist unresolved contradictions and questions.

There is now, since the beginning of the year, another commission working with a broader task. In their interim report of July, 8, they complain about lacking cooperation.

Read the hearing transcripts. When really interesting questions are posed (e.g., When did you, NORAD, ordered jets to scramble? Uhmmm, I will come back to you with that information…). But in the next transcript, there is no “coming back”.

This commission should get every kind of support!!!
Instead, if they conduct interviews with personnel of intel agencies, a supervisor of the interviewee is always present, so that the commission says that could amount to an intimidation of witnesses.
Why does it take more than 6 weeks after a hearing took place until the transcript is published on the web site? Are they still understaffed?

All that indicates that the Administration still tries to block a thorough investigation.
What does that tell about them? Probably that there are still many things to hide. Everybody should be aware of the significance of this obstruction.

[emad]

4. a oneway ticket for bush/cheney/rumsfeld to....

guantanamo bay...............

[shimmergal]

12. As a waystation on their way to Hell.

Sorry, I know the latter isn't a workable demand. But I suspect it's where they're headed anyway.

[emad]

5. there's only one demand:

a oneway ticket for bush/cheney/rumsfeld to....guantanamo bay!.........

[Dancing_Dave]

6. Gore Vidal's Deep History of 9/11 for activists

The deepest historical piece for activist background on 9/11 so far is http://burningbush.netfirms.com/Vidal.html Gore Vidal has a deeper understanding of political history than anyone else alive. He just knows it in his bones, as the expression goes. Prejudiced clinging to the official propaganda version of events NEVER created effective progressive political activism. One must UNDERSTAND.

[Dancing_Dave]

7. Opposition to Destruction of Civil Rights, A Key 9/11 Protest issus

The Bush Regime has always been eager to take away our Contitutional Civil Rights, in the name of "Homeland Security". Those neo-con artists are especially eager to take away any rights that make it possible to figure out what corrupt scams they're really up to! But the opposition to their unconstitutional scam is rapidly growing into a whole new Civil Rights Movement. We've got to get this linked in with our 9/11 protests wherever we may be. Check out all the prestigious organizations who signed on to this formal protest sent to the head of "Homeland Security":

> August xx, 2003
>
>The Honorable Tom Ridge
>Secretary
>U.S. Department of Homeland Security
>Washington, D.C. 20528
>
>Dear Mr. Secretary:
>
>We are writing to urge the Department of Homeland Security to give the
>public an opportunity to comment on procedures that are being developed
>that may restrict the public dissemination of "homeland security
>information," including information that is "sensitive but unclassified."
>
>These procedures are being developed to implement the Homeland Security
>Information Sharing Act (HSISA). The Act was passed into law as Section
>VIII of the Homeland Security Act of 2002 with the purpose of fostering
>the sharing of information among federal, state, and local officials about
>possible terrorism activities.
>
>The public's ability to remain informed of and participate in the
>decision-making of government is fundamental to the democratic
>process. Democracy is undermined whenever openness is
>compromised. Consistent with these democratic principles, those
>compromises, when they are made, should be made only when necessary and
>only after an open process in which the public participates.
>
>Public comment on the procedures implementing the Act is warranted for
>several reasons. First, the definition of Homeland Security Information
>(HSI) included in HSISA is so broad that it raises the question whether
>activities of government officials and the public that have little to do
>with terrorism could be harmed by these implementing regulations. In
>particular, Section 892(f)(1) of HSISA defines homeland security
>information to include information that
>
>(A) relates to the threat of a terrorist activity, (B) relates to the
>ability to prevent, interdict, or disrupt terrorist activity, (C) would
>improve the identification or investigation of a suspected terrorist or
>terrorist organization, or would (D) improve the response to a terrorist act.
>
>What remains unclear until implementing regulations are written and
>released is whether these procedures would preclude public access to
>information that community residents, parents, journalists and others in
>the public currently obtain from or with the assistance of government in
>order to make their communities safer, inform the public, and for other
>purposes. Equally unclear is whether these procedures will require
>government to remove information already publicly available. The public
>should have an opportunity to address that question in a public
>notice-and-comment rulemaking and government policymakers should consider
>those answers in formulating the information sharing procedures.
>
>Second, public comment is warranted because the procedures developed under
>HSISA could directly affect a large number of people both inside and
>outside of the federal government. The HSISA would prohibit public
>disclosure of information subject to agreements between the government and
>those receiving "sensitive but unclassified" information. One recent
>analysis estimates that roughly four million people - including public
>health officials not employed by government at any level - could be asked
>under the requirements of HSISA to sign formal nondisclosure
>agreements. Those agreements would be enforceable through civil and
>criminal sanctions. In addition, the procedures implementing the Act
>could expand the list of those subject to these agreements even further.
>
>Third, the public has an interest in being informed of new procedures for
>sharing information that may infringe on the public's ability to obtain
>information from government about its activities. Since the procedures
>that are to be created will directly address the "safeguarding" of
>information and restrictions on public dissemination of information, the
>public should have the opportunity to review a draft version of these
>implementing procedures, analyze their adequacy and potential impact, and
>make recommendations for improvements, as necessary.
>
>The Homeland Security Information Sharing Act was passed into law with
>little public review and scrutiny and, thus, the impacts of the procedures
>that are to be developed to implement the Homeland Security Information
>Sharing Act are unknown. Since its passage, though, the law has attracted
>increased attention outside the government. We ask that the Department of
>Homeland Security provide the public with a period of sufficient length
>(i.e., 90 days) to review and comment upon a draft version of the
>procedures before they are finalized.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>American Association of Law Libraries
>American Library Association
>American Society of Magazine Editors
>American Society of Newspaper Editors
>Association of Health Care Journalists
>Association of Research Libraries
>Calhoun County Resource Watch
>Citizens' Environmental Coalition
>Committee of Concerned Journalists
>Common Cause
>The Education Writers Association
>Electronic Privacy Information Center
>Environmental Defense
>Federation of American Scientists
>Freedom of Information Center, University of Missouri School of Journalism
>Good Neighbor Committee of South Cook County
>Government Accountability Project
>Magazine Publishers of America
>Mid-America Association of Law Librarians
>National Environmental Trust
>National Security Archive
>National Society of Newspaper Columnists
>Newspaper Association of America
>Ohio Valley Environmental Coalition
>OMB Watch
>People for the American Way Foundation
>Project on Government Oversight
>Protect All Children's Environment
>Refinery Reform Campaign
>The Silha Center for the Study of Media Ethics and Law
>Society of Environmental Journalists
>Society of Professional Journalists
>Sustainable Energy and Economic Development (SEED) Coalition
>The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press
>Valley Watch, Inc.
>Working Group on Community Right to Know
>
>cc: Condoleeza Rice, National Security Advisor
> Joshua Bolten, Director, Office of Management and Budget
> John Ashcroft, Attorney General, Department of Justice

[Isabel Cole]

8. Americans Abroad

I'm with American Voices Abroad - Berlin. We're a large group of Americans (with many New Yorkers), and we've been protesting Bush's policies for months. We're definitely going to do some kind of demonstration on September 11, and it would be great to hook up with whatever's going on in New York! You can find out about our coalition at www.americansineurope.org or contact us in Berlin at [e-mail].

[seemslikeadream]

11. And tell all your friends about us too!

Thanks for posting.

[Dancing_Dave]

9. Here's some simple ones....

WHO PUT ALL THOSE BOMBS IN THE WTC COMPLEX? AND WHY WAS IT COVERED UP?
:hippie:

[Dancing_Dave]

10. A bit late for mass mobilization - but must do SOMETHING!

We could do some tasteful little protests with thoughtful banners, blend in with the official 9/11 rememberence events, while bringing up the fact that so many of us now do not accept the official version of what happened on 9/11 and why, nor do we support the way the war profitters in the Bush Administration have used the 9/11 pretext to kill thousands of innocent people while making millions of dollars for themselves!

[Isabel Cole]

13. 9/11 protest in NY

Here are some protest events planned for September 11 - http://www.lfchosting.com/sportsfem/peace/91103calendar.html

Please let me know if you hear of or plan anything else! You can email me at [e-mail]

What's the mood in NY right now? A friend of mine over there says there's little "critical discussion" of September 11 at the moment.