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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:33 PM
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Everyone should be prepared for * to win the debate tonight.
Not that I think he will, I just don't want to come in here tonight and find all of you crying and boohooing that Kerry is the nominee. He is our nominee and I support him come good debate or bad. * has been practicing in this format for some time and he is not about to loose the election tonight. The Repub spinmeisters will be ready with happy faces for the press. We have to prevail in this election come rain or shine. Kerry is my man come rain or shine. Can I get an AMEN!!??
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:35 PM
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1. All he has to do is LOOK somewhat more coherent than he did last week
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 01:50 PM by rocknation
and he's guaranteed a tie, with the press singing his praises all weekend. Kerry will have to do something that will blow him out of the water!

:headbang:
rocknation
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:36 PM
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5. something radical
like telling the truth AGAIN!
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:38 PM
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11. Exactly, you get my point. Everyone is expecting a repezat of last time.
We cannot let a tie mean a Bush win. Everyone is talking about Bush doing well if he doesn't make angry faces. It is more likely that * will wink at people tonight.
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:35 PM
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2. AMEN!
:kick:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:35 PM
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3. amen
not happenin, tho.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:35 PM
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4. No way he will lose...and behind Kerry 100%!!!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:37 PM
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6. LOL!
Color me NOT WORRIED, despite all the gloom and doom I unfortunately have to read on DU.
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:37 PM
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7. AMEN! nt
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Grillydad Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:37 PM
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8. AMEN
What do you think the effect of a tie or a bush win tonight will mean? I think this debate is less important than the first because of the format and the growing momentum. It may energize the opposing sides, but the homestretch work will make a bigger difference.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:40 PM
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14. I think a tie will be spun as a * win. We have to make sure that doesn't
happen. it is not enough for * to look happy and speak clearly. And we have to make sure that any lies that kerry does not get a chance to counter are countered here tonight. Now that we know the press is looking.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:37 PM
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9. I think it's a strong possibility. Performing better than last week will
be viewed as a "win" by media and his ever-loyal followers. And he's good with "folks," being such a reg'lar guy himself who's busy werkin' hard fitin' ter'rists.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:50 PM
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20. If he just shows up they'll call it a draw.
Kerry could mop the floor with him and media will declare it a "clean victory for Bush."

I fully expect Bush to tell some outrageous lies like Cheney. Then on page 1 the press will praise him for his performance and on page 30 something they'll print the story on how Bush wasn't exactly correct on a few things.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:54 PM
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21. I just don't see and never have
this "regular" guy perception regarding bush*. The guy comes across as an arrogant condescending little jerk off. I don't care how many times the media whores tell me otherwise, I know what I see.
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RoundRockD Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:38 PM
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10. All Bush has to do to win is to not make any stupid faces.
I believe the media will give him credit for merely showing up.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:38 PM
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12. There is no question that Bush will do well in the debate tonight
...on the superficial aspects, anyway, which is most of what people notice. He's good at working a crowd, he loves a setting where he can roll up his sleeves and strut around while telling his pathetic pseudo-compassionate anecdotes, and when he feels confident he comes across as genuine. And let's face it, these are things that many American voters--and TV commentators--love.

So I wouldn't be at all surprised if Bush is declared the winner.

But there is no Bush debate performance great enough, or Kerry performance bad enough, that would dissuade me from supporting Kerry. At the end of the night Bush will still be the Commander in Thief, and Kerry will be our next president.
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Texas_Dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:38 PM
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13. I am hearing ya!
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 01:40 PM by Texas_Dem
Expect the repugs to spin the spinners' spin. They get thier material from Dick "Pull it out of my ass" Cheney.
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pelagius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:42 PM
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16. Good Point! It's not the debate that matters. It's the spin!
Truth squadders, get ready to roll about 1 second after the debate ends!
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:40 PM
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15. Amen Brother! or Amen Sister! Choose accordingly.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:43 PM
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17. Even if he shits his pants tonight, the whores will spin it as a win
I'm serious, there is very little Kerry can do to win tonight. The whores are in line and ready to call it for Bush. They are certain he won't be anywhere near as bad as last time, so he wins.

The expectations are lower on this debate than they were for the little bastard in 2000!
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CarlWoodward Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:46 PM
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The good news
is that the media seem to be a lot more aware this year of Rove's pre-debate "expectation lowering" strategy that worked so well for * in 2000. Hopefully that means they might be a little less likely to declare a non-drool performance as a "big victory."

Another good thing for Kerry is the fact that this debate is competing with baseball, and is on a Friday night (the most popular time to release bad news) so even if the chimp's managers are able to spin it as a "Bush win," the news will already be old by the time Monday rolls around, when most people start paying attention again.
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jacksonian Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:05 PM
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23. less people watching = more chance for spin -nt
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CarlWoodward Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:46 PM
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18. The good news
is that the media seem to be a lot more aware this year of Rove's pre-debate "expectation lowering" strategy that worked so well for * in 2000. Hopefully that means they might be a little less likely to declare a non-drool performance as a "big victory."

Another good thing for Kerry is the fact that this debate is competing with baseball, and is on a Friday night (the most popular time to release bad news) so even if the chimp's managers are able to spin it as a "Bush win," the news will already be old by the time Monday rolls around, when most people start paying attention again.
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:54 PM
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22. Good point and
The first debate is always the debate that has the most viewers. Also a lot of voters will form their opinion with the first debate and that will be the end of it. Remember the old saying about first impressions, they are the ones that count.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:49 PM
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19. You mean like W "won" before?
LOL. The media can't do much more even if Bush did by some miracle outperform Kerry. Cryed Wolfblitzer too many times already and ate crow.
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