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Paragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 05:49 AM Original message |
Clark "ties" Bush on defense, loses on every other issue |
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AnnitaR (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
1. You've got to be kidding me? |
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Paragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. There's a reason I put it in quotes |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
47. Clark is a Rhodes Scholar and Prof. of Econ., Has an excellent tax plan |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:39 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. he has Hoover's tax plan. |
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Tim_in_HK (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 09:21 AM Response to Reply #58 |
69. explain please n/t |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 09:39 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. please see my reply in #37 |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
76. And Shrub |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:00 AM Response to Original message |
2. that's just a ludicrous assertion |
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Paragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. That's just not an answer |
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AnnitaR (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:23 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Yep, we Clark supporters are just too dumb to answer questions. |
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Paragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I notice you didn't answer mine. |
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AnnitaR (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
28. Well, I guess Dean is fucked too then! |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:51 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. exactly how is Dean "fucked too"? |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
50. Clark put together a huge group of allies to fight a humanitarian war |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:25 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. and this will discredit Bush's "Coalition of the Willing" how? |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
4. Defense will not be the #1 issue in the election |
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Paragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:10 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Good - but if that's so, explain Clark's candidacy |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:15 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. scared Democrats who have lost faith in the Democratic party. |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
52. Let Clark explain his own candidacy to you. Just watch him. |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
56. Foreign Policy will be the #1 issue unless the economy crashes |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:39 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. not according to the polls. #1 is the economy. |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
8. your thoughts are way off base. |
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Paragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. It's not an attack - I'm trying to think ahead |
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AnnitaR (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Oh it's Clark bashing when you say that he loses to Bush |
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Paragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Answer the question. |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. he will tout his experience cluster-bombing Kosovo |
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SahaleArm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:32 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Don't forget Waco or JFK n/t |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:33 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. That's right, Clark has "experience" in Texas, too |
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SahaleArm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. What experience - Putting the country in the sh*tter? |
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Paragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:35 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Agreed, but what will Clark run on? |
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SahaleArm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Strong on defense - Strong tax plan... |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:43 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Clark has merely stolen Hoover's tax plan |
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SahaleArm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Funny - Hooverian zeal to balance the budget? |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 07:16 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. actually it was the exorbanent taxation imposed on the uppermost brackets |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 09:03 AM Response to Reply #37 |
66. More likely a run up on stocks |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 09:38 AM Response to Reply #66 |
71. that is just plain untrue |
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SahaleArm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
18. You're premise is wrong Clark is better on defense... |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. no, he's the Lobbyist who couldn't find the Lobby. |
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SahaleArm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Bored trying to defend a failed doctor? n/t |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:44 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Once again, what makes you think I support Dean instead? |
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SahaleArm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:45 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Who says I'm talking about Dean? n/t |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:46 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. don't insult my intelligence |
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SahaleArm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. This reminds me of an experiment... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 09:05 AM Response to Reply #27 |
67. we didn't notice. |
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imhotep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
31. it looks as if |
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Turkw (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 07:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. AFRAID to fight what, the hysterical hyperbole that masquerades as issues? |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
74. I think what he is saying is that Democrats behind Clark are surrendering |
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Turkw (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
32. Clark has experience governing the civilian side of all the NATO bases |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
33. Apparently a stunning revelation for some |
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Turkw (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 07:14 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. How do you "know" this, many of the Clark supporters have answered |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:22 AM Response to Reply #36 |
51. Yes, I have seen the repeated response: |
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Turkw (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
78. But you have not disproved them, just ignored them and made the same |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 07:20 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. to tear apart Clark's military record, Republicans will just say "fired". |
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Turkw (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 07:52 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. It will backfire on Rove, just like using the negative flyers at the Clark |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 07:54 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. and that will backfire on Clark - it will only validate Bush's Iraq war |
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Turkw (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
79. On what planet? Clark regularly bashes Bush on NOT focusing on Al-Qeada |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:24 AM Response to Reply #38 |
53. the Republicans will not be mincing words |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:30 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. yep, as if valued Generals are EVER "encouraged" to retire. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
75. Kick |
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FreeperSlayer (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
34. Yep, Dean's "experience"... |
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meti57b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
39. In 2000, bush had no experience and if all the votes had been counted, ... |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 07:51 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Bush at least proved his electability twice as Governor, unlike Clark |
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Turkw (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 07:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Who had to work and earn everything he got, unlike aristo's like Bush |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 07:55 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Ted Kennedy? That's splitting hairs when it comes to experience in office. |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
45. Foreign Policy, Masters in Econ, Rhodes Scholar, Diplomat |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:04 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. That will look great on the business cards Clark hands out after losing |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
48. Clark is well-respected and well-liked in Europe and elsewhere |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:18 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. that and a passport will get you a bag of chips in France |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
59. An AWOL National Guardsman "ties" a war hero 4 star general? |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:44 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Bush is a "war-time president". That trumps all in the voters' minds. |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
61. Clark a Visionary - has well thought-out 100 year plan |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:50 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. people vote 4 years at a time. His "100 year plan" is irrelevent. |
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Killarney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
62. What's the difference between democrats and cannibals? |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:51 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. and what will that leave us with for 4 years? Another militaristic Repub. |
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Killarney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 08:54 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Do you have reading comprehension problems? |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
68. Why was Clark drafted to begin with? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
70. My opinion is if you post to present someone as a bad choice |
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lib 4 all (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 10:15 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. you're ignoring the thrust of my objection |
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Turkw (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Let's see- promotion of minorities and women, education of children, |
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