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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:40 PM
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We are systematically wiping out the city of Fallujah
I don't know why I am so shocked by this. But I am. I am devastated.

Here's a photographer trying to flee the city:
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Hussein moved from house to house — dodging gunfire — and reached the river.
"I decided to swim ... but I changed my mind after seeing U.S. helicopters firing on and killing people who tried to cross the river."
He watched horrified as a family of five was shot dead as they tried to cross. Then, he "helped bury a man by the river bank, with my own hands."
snip--
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041114/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_escaping_fallujah&cid=540&ncid=1480

Here's a blogger in Baghdad:
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People in Falloojeh are being murdered. The stories coming back are horrifying. People being shot in cold blood in the streets and being buried under tons of concrete and iron... where is the world? Bury Arafat and hurry up and pay attention to what's happening in Iraq.
They say the people have nothing to eat. No produce is going into the city and the water has been cut off for days and days. Do you know what it's like to have no clean water??? People are drinking contaminated water and coming down with diarrhoea and other diseases. There are corpses in the street because no one can risk leaving their home to bury people. Families are burying children and parents in the gardens of their homes. WHERE IS EVERYONE???
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http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

And here's the US Military and the Iraqi puppets:
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"We have about 20 civilian casualties," he said.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041114/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_041114190618&e=2
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The US military says it sees no need for the Iraqi Red Crescent to deliver aid to people inside Fallujah, and does not think any Iraqi civilians are trapped inside the city.
"There is no need to bring (Red Crescent) supplies in because we have supplies of our own for the people," said US Marine Colonel Mike Shupp.
Asked what he intended to do about families and other non-combatants trapped inside the city, Col Shupp said: "I don't think that is the case. I haven't heard that myself and the Iraqi soldiers didn't tell me about that. We want to help them as much as we can. We are on the radio broadcast telling them how to come out and how to come up to coalition forces."
-snip---
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11389376%255E401,00.html

We won't let the Red Crescent in. We are saying there are virtually no civilians in the whole city?
What have we done? What are we hiding?

:scared:
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:42 PM
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1. Well 'we' aren't, but the US Army Demolition Team is... so that contracts
will be sold to rebuild it.

That's all this is. Just a US Taxpayer funded City wide demolition so that new contracts can be issued to pals of bush, to rebuild the city with US taxpayer dollars.

Quite a racket, eh?
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:46 PM
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3. Actually, if you listen to the radio and interviews on it,
there are a lot of civilians who were too poor or too ill to leave who have died. The statement that stuck with me "Ask anyone. The U.S. is shot them." If I remember correctly, this was a father with a toddler who was shot.

We are so losing this war.
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RebelYell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:32 PM
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12. I wish everyone could see it's a racket n/t
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:22 PM
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15. It's a very successful racket.
A never-ending unwinnable war.
Against a shapeshifting, elusive enemy.

I don't know if I can handle 4 more years of this.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:43 PM
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2. The freepers probably
came in their pants when they read about all the carnage.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:24 PM
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11. As sick as that is
what is even sicker is that I actually KNOW people who do get off (not literally maybe) on this kind of stuff.

"Kill them all and let God sort 'em out."

"If it lives in the sand, kill it."

"Kill all the Iraqis, then they'll be 'free.'" (followed by chuckling)

:vomit:
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:48 PM
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4. Memorial to the dead of Lidice,
in the meadow where the town stood. Hitler had all residents killed and the town literally wiped off the map as revenge for the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich, Nazi "Protector of Bohemia and Moravia."

America is summoning up a thundercloud.


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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:50 PM
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5. How will they ever forgive us for being so stupid to let this war happen?
:thumbsdown: :cry:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:54 PM
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6. Not likely to happen
for a VERY L-O-N-G time.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:57 PM
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7. They won't.
There is no forgiveness for what this country has done to Iraq. There is nothing we will ever be able to do to make up for this or even make it right. That is how badly Bush and warmongering Americans have fucked things up.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:05 PM
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8. But this is not like Viet Nam
"We have to destroy the village to save it."
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:20 PM
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9. There will be a lot of Fallujahs.
The insurgents will simply go to the next town and what will we do? Go into that? And then the next? And the next? We have them exactly where they want us.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:21 PM
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10. ahh, now theres the way to win hearts and minds.
OMG I cant believe these people won.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:50 PM
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14. Did the Bush* supporters not see this coming?
I am trying so hard to get over my anger from the election but I just want to go kick some bush* supporter ass. And tie them to chairs and make 'em look at pictures of dead kids and old people.

:grr:
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:46 PM
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13. Well...Freedom isn't Free!!!
Especially when Halliburton and Cheney are making some big bucks on these little enterprises.

I think Hannity and Rush will talk about the "enemy insurgents" tomorrow for the Pro-Life Crowd.

Yeah, some American soldiers died. But this in NOTHING like WWII.

I wonder what Brit Hume thinks about the War and the casualties. After all, we are there to "free" Iraq.
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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:33 PM
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16. Yep, and either Mosul or Samarra are next. n/t
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:22 PM
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17. According to CNN, we are liberating the city of Fallujah
Which reminds me of nothing more than Return of the Jedi, when the apparition of Obi-Wan explains that when he told Luke that his father was dead, he was speaking "from a certain point of view".
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