"I'm a divider - not a uniter.."

[kentuck]

Because, don't you see, so long as I can divide people and make them take one side or the other, I do not have to talk about any issues what kind of job I am doing or anything else. You are either with me or against me.

You see, I outsmarted the liberals. I divided this nation between those that are patriotic and those that are weaklings. I divided this nation into those that are "moral" and those that are "immoral". It was a simple task because the liberals wanted to talk about the "issues" but people will not listen to "weaklings" on defense and "immoral" people. They were easy pickings. <smirk>

[Ardee]

1. OK you are brilliant

but please enlighten me as to how you so controlled your opposition that he bought into your program with such blindness and complicity?

It was up to Kerry and his campaign to defeat such tactics with truth and honesty, to refuse diversion and cut through with blinding clarity, and, in fact, in the reality in which I live this is exactly what happened.....but in 2000 when Gore won. We now have had four years of peace and prosperity, no wars and ever increasing cooperation world-wide. Why even the air and water are cleaner now and global warming is a diminishing threat......

Oh yeah one more question Mr. President, why do you say you outsmarted the liberals when no such creature was evident in the campaign, in any position of authority.

[kentuck]

2. You are whatever we say you are....

:) We have perfected our message thru the media. You folks don't look at the big picture. You plan your strategy from day to day and week to week. You see, me and Karl and the neo-cons plan our strategy years ahead. Once we were permitted to define our opponent, the game was over.

[Ardee]

3. I do own guns you know......

point taken though. So would you deign to be self destructive now that you are a lame duck and offer a suggestion or three as to how the (far too) loyal opposition might change its losing ways?

[kentuck]

4. Would I be self destructive....

We will do whatever it takes to protect our country and to protect my job. As my advice to the loyal opposition, I would say that you can never be against a war when it's in its early stages and expect to win. After a few thousand deaths and the realization that it's a quagmire, being anti-war may be effective. Also, I would suggest that you be more clear about what you stand for. Don't get caught in the trap of being for one issue or another...Speak in general principles. So that your supporters will know what you mean but it cannot be interpreted as definite by your opponents. You see, you people are too honest...you say what you mean. You don't really understand the game of politics.

[Ardee]

5. But what price victory?

not to oppose such a thing as the invasion of Iraq might be politically expedient, though you had already usurped that war as your own, but it would be morally unconscionable.

Kerry did try to adopt a pro war posture remember, for all the good it did him....As a dyed in the wool Liberal I must say that fully opposing both the lies that were told to gain approval for that war (shame on you and Powell)as well as the noting that this invasion violated international law and created a terrific recruiting opportunity for AlQaeda may have served the Dems better.

I understand the liability that honesty brings to politics, I just cannot help it!

[kentuck]

6. Whatever works..

It would be a lot easier if I were a dictator...

[Ardee]

8. Arent you?

Hey, Kentuck, this is kind of fun, just wish we hadnt driven everyone else away.....oh sorry, Mr. President.

[kentuck]

13. We just try to love people like we wanna be loved...

Sit down Slim.... :)

[Dr Fate]

7. Wouldnt you love to see a prominent DEM leader say this on TV?

But they are too chicken-shit to do that.

If they did that- Judty Woodruff or some other whore in clown make-up would be "outraged"

Bush is a LIAR for saying this- and I would love for a DEM "leader" to speak the truth and call him that.

Oh well, at tleast the base still tells the truth to each other, on the street and on internet forums. Ho-hum.

[Ardee]

9. Shhhhhhh

The truth is a secret you know.....

[mtnsnake]

10. Absolutely! Until a Dem comes right out and accuses him

of being a liar and uses the L word itself, we're never gonna get the respect it takes to win.

"Mr President, you are a blatant LIAR!!"

What bigshot Democrat will be the first one to have the balls?

[Dr Fate]

11. The DNC thinks that "swing voters" prefer to be lied to.

Where they got that idea, I have no idea.

What swing voters want is plain talking & truth telling.

...the perception that Bush and Republicans are "honest Christian" exists b/c prominent DEMS REFUSE to say otherwise. On TV-where people can hear it.

[Dr Fate]

12. Whores in clown make up would be "mean to us"-so we better not.

If we did that, Judy Woodruff, Chris Matthews, and every whore wearing clown make up would attack us.

We cant have people being "mean to us" for telling the truth, now can we?

We cant have a fight-that would be unseemly.

[Ardee]

14. I am soooo torn

On the one hand, as Kentuck, in his guise as the mentally challenged ,dry drunk, scion of a former President, so aptly notes, meanness , distortion and unfounded insult are the hallmark of the right wing nd thus very distasteful to me. On the other hand, whats wrong with the plain unvarnished truth, dammit!

[Dr Fate]

15. Exactly- I never suggested we hurl unfounded insults...

Just facts that happen to make them look bad.

Lets tell the FACTS and let the chips fall-thats all.

But they wont do it-too chicken.

[Ardee]

17. The Colonel is dead

It is not cowardice, imo, that drives the Democrats to such conformity and monotonous repetition of conservative dogmas. It is much more mundane a reason than cowardice, it is the money.

This system under which we are ruled is so dreadfully sick that politicos are wedded to the handouts of the corporations that really call all the shots here.An elected politician begins, as h/her first actions as incumbent, to amass a war chest for future election victory. In order to sock away the dough this politico must ensure that h/she is on board with the wishes of the large benefactors. Once the political career ends h/she jumps right into a highly paid lobbyist position as a reward for selling out the taxpayer.

A neat and rewarding system if you are on the inside, a wasteful and criminal one if you aint. The Democratic move to the right is meant to fill that war chest, to ingratiate itself with the big boys,. Every action that we interpret as lacking in conviction, scope, morality, whatever, is simply a ploy to continue the flow of the checks. They care not one fig for my $100 I promise you.

There are two things I believe will save us all; true, honest campaign finance reform, not that McCain Feingold crap, and the growth of the third party system (long term goal that)......

[CatWoman]

16. This is what would happen

http://www.bartcop.com/libmedia.htm

Let's do a "what if" so I can make a point. I think it's a good one.
I think it's so good, I'd like to hear from anyone who disagrees.

What if a show like Dateline did a "hatchet job" on George W. Bush?
It wouldn't have to really be a hatchet job, but any honest appraisal of that idiot's
qualifications would prove he's a non-thinking rich man's boy - and that's all.
But what would happen if Dateline did an unflattering portrait of Bush?

I'll tell you what would happen:

The vulgar Pigboy would spend at least three hours saying it wasn't true
and he'd offer hours of rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Bill O'Reilly would spend at least an hour on his show saying
it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Sean Hannity would walk all over Alan Colmes for an hour that night,
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Eva Von Zahn would spend at least an hour that night saying it wasn't true
and she'd offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

The Beltway Boys would spend at least an hour that night saying it
wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Brit Hume and Tony Snow would spend at least an hour on Sunday
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Juan Williams and Mara Liason would spend their entire allotted time
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

John McLaughlin would spend at least an hour on his syndicated show
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Chris the Screamer would spend at least an hour on his show
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

G. Gordon Liddy would spend at least three hours on his radio show
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Laura the Whore would spend at least an hour on her radio show
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Michael Medved would spend at least an hour on his radio show
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Sam and Cokie would spend at least an hour on This Whore
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

George (Judas Maximus) Steffi and George (dumb as a chimp) Will
would spend their entire allotted time swearing that it wasn't true.

Bob Scheiffer would spend at least an hour on Face the Whore
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Tim the Catholic would spend at least an hour on Meet the Whore
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

John Hockenberry would spend at least an hour on his show
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Ollie North would spend at least an hour on his radio show
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Robert Novak would spend at least an hour on his cable TV show
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Paul Weyrich would spend at least an hour on his cable TV show
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Still with me? We're close to the end...

BSNBC's Brian Williams would spend at least an hour on his show
saying it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Wolf the Whore would spend at least an hour on his show saying
it wasn't true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Bill Schneider and Candy Crowley would do an hour special on CCN
(Clinton Cock Network) saying it wasn't true, and offering rebuttal.

John Stossel would have a special on ABC: Is lying OK for liberals?

Then Howie Kurtz would spend 30 minutes on Reliable Sources asking
if the media wasn't being too hard on a developmently-disabled child.


Ann Coulter would write a book condemning Dateline.
Laura Ingraham would write a book condemning Dateline.
Peggy Noonan would write a book condemning Dateline.
Andrew Sullivan would write a book condemning Dateline.
William Safire would write a book condemning Dateline.

OK, we're going to call the above "Exhibit A."

Now, everyone on that list has done at least a dozen hit pieces on Clinton.

My question is, Where is "Exhibit B?"

When those 38 people attack Clinton and his cock, who does the rebuttal?

Even you ditto-sheep have to admit that nobody on that list
has EVER defended a fabricated lie against the president.

There is no "Exhibit B," because there are so few liberal voices on television.
The closest you can get is Eleanor on McLaughlin or Geraldo, but there is barely
a liberal whisper on television, even though there are DOZENS of right-wing,
Smirk-apologist shows whose livelyhood is lying about liberals.

I don't think you ditto-heads can offer an answer.