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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:50 PM
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What do Bush, Kerry and the NRA have in common?
They all believe in deficit spending.

Bush is mortgaging our nations future, Kerry is mortgaging his house for the campaign, and the NRA apparently has an unlimited credit line somewhere.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:52 PM
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1. Dean admitted that he would not balance the budget in his first 4 years
So what was your point? how is he any different than Kerry?

Unless he intends to balance the budget in the first year, Dean too believes in deficit spending.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:55 PM
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3. Dean is running his campaign on contributions, not credit
He is not running a personal deficit.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 03:10 PM
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6. I respect your opinion and your message of unity.
But a Dean nomination is not inevitable, and Kerry is making a number of negative assertions concerning Dean's legitimacy as a candidate.

I think that how a campaign is run does in fact give you a great deal of insight into how well they will perform in office.

Kerry's plummeting poll numbers and inability to raise money are clear indicators that he lacks both insider and grass roots support.

He is attempting to use his wealth to compensate for his lack of support, and is running a campaign deficit which is a much greater illegitimacy. To me, that is a big issue.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 03:14 PM
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9. Well, there you go!
Now, you're talking.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:58 PM
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4. Kerry's personal finances have no bearing on ...
what he would do with the US deficit.

That's apples and oranges. It's his home, his personal money.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 03:03 PM
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5. Supporter's deficit spending
That's what Dean is running his campaign on. People mortgaging their homes, running up credit card bills, and going without food to support his campaign. I appreciate the fact that Kerry doesn't expect his supporters to do that. He's willing to put his own money on the line to help the people who have been hurt by Bush. And he'll keep helping the people when he's President by not raising their taxes to pay for Bush's deficit spending.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 03:13 PM
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7. What does Dean and the NRA have in common that Kerry doesn't?
The NRA endorsed Dean many times.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 03:14 PM
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8. you are correct n/t
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 03:16 PM
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10. Are you sure about that?
I'm aware that the NRA has given Dean an "A" rating in the past. But have they ever endorsed him? I could be wrong, but I don't think they have.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 03:33 PM
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11. you are probably right, it was not a literal endorsement n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 03:36 PM
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12. Dean said they did
"I've been endorsed by the National Rifle Association,'' Dean tells audiences at almost every stop, referring to NRA's support of him when he was Vermont's governor for 11 years."

"As for the NRA, state campaign finance records show that the NRA never followed up its endorsement of Dean with a donation to any of his five re-election campaigns."

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/specialnews/dean/103.htm
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 03:39 PM
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14. Thanks (n/t)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 03:39 PM
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13. Dean has an "A" rating from NRA. Kerry has an "F."
That says a lot, too.
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