What the heck, Bush quoted the Devil in his inaugural speech?

[DoYouEverWonder]

Yes, it's true. In an amazing faux pas, Bush tried to sprinkle his inaugural speech with biblical references, ended up quoting 'The Devils' instead. Just one more sign that Bush is indeed the anti-christ.


Friday January 21, 2005
The Guardian

One of the models of American leadership is that of Moses, leading God's chosen people - then the Jews, now the Americans - towards a promised land, following a pillar of fire. At one point, according to the Bible, Moses was shown a sign: "Behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed."

But the key fire passage in the Burning Bush speech - "We have lit a fire as well; a fire in the minds of men" - actually has its origins in a novel by the 19th century Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Devils, about a group of terrorists' ineffectual struggle to bring down the tyrannical Tsarist regime.

One of the characters declares that it is pointless to try to put out a fire started by terrorists: "The fire is in the minds of men and not in the roofs of houses," he says.

The novel belongs to a period in Dostoevsky's life which the White House might find attractive, after he had been sent by the Tsar to a kind of Russian Guantánamo and emerged a deeply religious conservative.

Nonetheless, it is not clear whether Bush is identifying here with the terrorists - or the tyrants.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1395418,00.html

[prodigal_green]

1. He's a really clumsy anti-Christ

I think he is the assclown antichrist, if one believes in antichrists.

[NGU]

2. My best friend thinks he is the Anti-Christ too. n/t

[Tesla]

3. Evil always shines through....

Boy was he shining yesterday!!!

[GreenPartyVoter]

6. *lmbo*

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[tenshi816]

28. The pope's worried that he's the antichrist too,

or so I've read.

The thought occurred to me too a while back but I didn't mention it to anyone because I figured people would think I was crazy. Glad I'm not alone.

[DoYouEverWonder]

29. Well I can't vouch for your sanity

but you are certainly not alone.

Welcome to DU :hi:

[Azathoth]

4. There are two possibilities

Either Bush's speechwriters were too stupid to realize the context of the quote, or they were too cynical to care.

Given the type of unbridled arrogance that is the hallmark of this administration, I'm inclined to believe the latter.

[GreenPartyVoter]

7. Welcome to DU!

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[Azathoth]

11. Thank you!

:)

[MarianJack]

10. Good Point, Azathoth,...

...and welcome to DU!

[Azathoth]

12. Thank you

:)

[cry baby]

16. I second that....and welcome Azathoth

:hi:

[El Fuego]

19. The Third possibility...

They simply know that their core voter base will never read that type of article (assuming they read anything at all). Their success was based on the ignorance of the people. The same people who still think Iraq is about 9/11.

[SammyWinstonJack]

30. This I believe is the real possibility...........n/t

[gjb]

27. The truth is Bush's Speech writing team are a bunch of illiterates ....

channeling Wikipaedia.

Michael Gerson and his team of writers
See: http://www.school-for-hampions.com/speeches/gwbush_inaugural.htm

Good onya for the Dostoyevski snag. Not having read Dostoyevski I wouldn't have caught it but just goes to show you that how decadent this administrion is.

It's all about Rhetoric and winning doncha know. You don't actually have to know anything. It's all about pitch.

These issues were discussed by Plato 2500 years ago and they bear repeating now.

"In essence, Socrates argues that someone who is going to speak well and nobly must know the truth about the subject he is going to discuss." Rhetoric in the Phaedrus

see http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/plato-rhetoric/#5.1

There is no cleverer a man than a fool!

[LiberalFighter]

31. How about gw* actually reads books and these are his favorites

He can't let others know that he does because then there would be an interest to find out what they are about.

[ClintonTyree]

5. "The fire is in the minds of men and not in the roofs of houses,"

and there lies the entire fallacy of bush's "war on terra". You cannot wage a war against terror. Terror is a thought, terror is a tactic. Terror is not an army, not a force that is visible and static. You cannot wage a war on a thought.
Bush and his henchmen are fools. Bigger fools than even WE give him credit for.

[MarianJack]

9. You Make an Excellent Point, ClintonTyree!

I will add to it my belief that even the pnac administration knows that, as you say, "Terror is not an army, not a force that is visible and static".

The bottom line, and with this crew, the bottom line of profits is always paramount, is that they need excuses to go after the oil. In the first term it was the "war on terra". This term, it will be "spreading freedom". cheney was so arrogant that he was restating the exact same lies he said about Iraq regarding Iran on that horse's ass Imus's show yesterday.

Of course, our "guddam commie pinko libril medya" wont ask a simple question like; "Mr. president, if weapons of mass destruction are so dangerous, why aren't we invading North Korea, who has the bomb and says that they are willing to use it?" Of course, we know that the answer to that question is that there aren't billions of gallons of oil under North Korea, but this administration has now had it's accountability moment. They feel that they can do whatever they please and the congress and the press will let them.

[robbedvoter]

33. "A war on a noun" Albright described it to the 911 commission

Almost as idiotic as the relocation plan for terraists - moving them from Afghanistan to Iraq ( fight them there so we don't get them here)

[Hollowkatt]

8. Fire??

Well, as NPR puts it, when * was mentioning fire " He's going to get burned. Those who play with fire get burned"
Should be interesting

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. Too bad the rest of us

are going to end up burning with him.

BTW: Welcome to DU :hi:

[cry baby]

15. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[MarianJack]

18. Welcome to DU Hollowkatt!

I'm glad to hear an intelligent statement from NPR. Their rightward lurch is one of the most depressing things about the "liberal" media.

[roenyc]

14. Had no idea

but i would think bush would have to beleive in somthing to beleive he was the anti christ. i dont know what the hell he is. i cant wrap my head around a fairytale so i have to assume he just wants to play a part.

its what he has done all his life. put on a pair of jeans he is a cowboy. put on a suit he is an oil guy. put on a tux he is president. and so on. put on a pair of horns the devil pick up the bible he is jesus.

i think the entire republican party is filled with frustrated actors. many went to strict religious types of ceromonies as kids. not catholic where you went and fell asleep. no these got your attention and they learned how to play the game from those services. look at our own bill clinton..he knew how to do it too. that southern bullshit charm.

oh but on the way out of the ceromony (his speach thing) the guy next to him, dark hair gave the devil salute! as usual. yeah i know its the foot ball thing.

[DoYouEverWonder]

17. I heard there was a major outbreak

of Bush and his mineons flashing the devil sign.




BTW: IMHO, the anti-christ isn't a particular person. It is the manifestation of darkness and/or evil, of which Bush is just one example.

[cclevel]

20. Wrong

That is the University of Texas hand symbol. It is also used as a devil sign in concerts, but that was not his motivation. Just thought I would inform you.

[hang a left]

22. Sure it is. (sarcasm)

And what an appropriate place to be displaying this hand sign.

[DoYouEverWonder]

23. Yeah, sure

and this is the hand symbol from my alma marta:

[hang a left]

21. Long Horns my ars.

I remember reading that there were satanic statements made in his first inaugural speech. Something about the "angel caught up in a whirlwind".

[roenyc]

25. there is much yellow in bush's palm!

does he smoke? hmmm, no i didnt think so. his fingers would be yellow. and they are red with blood flow. so lets do a google on yellow palm and see.

From a quick search:

The color of the palm is a good indicator of the vitality and strength of a person.

Yellow: Bitter, Malicious, Jaundice.

A yellow palm might indicate a hostile or even cynical nature.


sounds about right! who says palm reading is balony. :7

[DoYouEverWonder]

26. I think a yellow palm

means Bush doesn't wash his hands after he wipes his ass?

[Tinoire]

24. An entire family of Evil Loving Satan worshipers

who no longer feel the need to hide what they are. They feel very comfortable now with their "overwhelming mandate".

[robbedvoter]

32. not clear whether Bush is identifying with the terrorists or the tyrants

Delicious irony! I dount that any of the people who put words in W's mouth even read Dostoyevski...