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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:49 PM
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Is anybody here over 55 and insulted by Bush's promise of no SS cuts?
Bush seems to think that people over 55 are only worried about themselves. How insulting is that? If I were over 55 the assumption that I am not concerned about SS for the next generation would piss me off.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:52 PM
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1. Bush's entire administration is an insult to every American.
Every word out of his lying mouth is an insult.

You expect me to elevate one insult over another?
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:52 PM
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2. I think that Bush's great revamping is to provide even better returns
for younger workers. Imagine if you had invested your retirement money in one of his failed businesses and weren't able to do the insider trading that he was to jump out with some of the money your Daddy & friends invested!

Hard to imagine in the future that George Walker Bush will ever again be spoken of in the same breath as FDR.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:54 PM
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3. Yes. First of all, don't try to appeal to my greed. The "I've got mine"
approach doesn't work with me.

Second, I have five younger siblings who are under 55.

Third, since when can you trust ANYTHING this man says?
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:07 AM
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19. I'm with you, SharonAnn!
I am 55, and I DO NOT believe a word he says! He's only saying that now to try get us to keep our mouths shut and not protest his plan, or, if that doesn't work, he'll just accuse us of being greedy and discredit our protests.

And I do not in any way feel that our benefits are not going to be changed! We know only too well how the "real" truth only emerges AFTER his disastrous ideas are implemented.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 01:17 AM
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20. YES!!! I may be 55, but I see through your game, and I will fight it...
Trying to push the 55+ crowd over to a friendly corner by saying "you've got yours" is just another in a long line of lies.

Also, since my wife is only 50, her retirement is more directly on the line. So I have every reason to fight this crap.

I view this issue as a line in the dirt that **must** not be crossed.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:54 PM
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4. I'm over 65, and I'm very worried for my children
and others of their generation. Social Security is just one aspect of the problem. I'm concerned more generally about the effects of Bush's fiscal and economic policies on the future of this country.
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nono Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:05 PM
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10. Same here
I fear for their future.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:11 PM
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11. The Federal Debt scares the shit out of me
The idea that we can run defecits of hundreds of billions a year to avoid having millionaires pay their fair share is abomonable.

Bush seems to think that this will solve itself.
I am unlucky, as I am 25, so I will be paying for Bush's tax cuts for years to come.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:58 PM
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6. Having that madman as the president..
is an insult to every thinking american.
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NewInNewJ. Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:02 PM
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7. I am 54
I am totally insulted. Left in the limbo area , as far as Pres. Deficit is concerned. Also my parents are farmers, he is cutting farm subsidies big time.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 03:19 AM
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23. I'm 51 and feel the same way you do.
And truly, if he's THAT concerned about our younger workers and everybody's children and grandchildren, why is he saddling them with the debt he's run up, from a surplus he ran through? Who does he think we all are - his "don't worry, Junior, I'll bail you out" daddy?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:02 PM
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8. I don't think anyone believes it, do they? If money is removed from
the fund, there will be a cut.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:18 PM
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12. I'm 47 and flat out pissed off
I've been paying extra FICA just as long as the 55 year olds, but I'm going to get my benefit cut? I already have to wait longer to retire. I am so tired of the economics of the boomers just ahead of me fucking up my finances.

But even if my benefits stayed the same, I'd still be worried about my kids because they deserve the same insurance for emergencies that I always had.
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:31 PM
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13. blaming the boomers isn't the answer
we've all ways got the blame ie. music ,Vietnam, feel goods etc...the truth is that they don't want you to retire, they want you as a cheap labor market....pushing out carts at wall* mart on a part-time basis ...it's the repugs way
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:34 PM
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14. Welcome to DU.
I am also a baby boomer and cannot afford to retire.

As a woman, I have always received shit pay. Though I have done an equal job as men and am college educated and work in my field. Blasted glass ceiling.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:00 PM
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16. The economics are still there
I blame Reaganism, first and foremost.

But the economics of the boomer generation are still there and I've been kicked in the teeth by it my entire life. Even though I am a boomer too, just at the tail end of it. It is just a "that's the way it is" sort of thing. We are all on this planet and affect each other's lives.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:47 PM
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15. I am not, but I drove this little old lady from down the street to her
hair appointment yesterday. She's quite upset about it. I know she voted for schmuck-o, too. Before the election, when I drove her somewhere, she voiced some misgivings about the way the war was going - she did NOT like it, but still said she always votes "straight republi-CON." She said, at the time she wasn't sure that would include the top of the ticket, but I KNOW she went ahead and voted for him anyway.

Yesterday, on the other hand, she starts talking about it and she got more and more vehement about it - how awful it is, and how could he possibly fix something when he's already run up all this debt (when I brought this up, she wholeheartedly concurred), AND - get this - she started in with "well, I'm not sure WHAT I am, Democrat, or republi-CON, but..."

HMMM... change of heart here?

Frankly, knowing this lady (as I have for 40 years or so), I NEVER would have expected to hear her wavering like this. Staunch, unthinking, unblinking republi-CON to the bone marrow. And now she's just not sure WHAT loyalty to have... It was a revelation. Almost felt like a win. So naturally I encouraged it!
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:06 PM
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17. I'm 60 this year, husband is 68 ....I can't for the life of me
figure out WHY there is NOT MORE REBELLION/protests toward this dipshit in the whitehouse.

My GOD, don't people care anymore about what is going to happen to their children's lives???? their own lives????? the system as it was set up to be?????

And where are the fucking democrats....??? I have 15 grandchildren and 6 children (between my husband and me)....half of them don't listen to the news, and I JUST CANNOT believe that they are so complacent.

Ohhhh where's my respirator....lol
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Katidid Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:28 PM
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18. Broken Promises, promises
In his first State of the Union address, delivered on February 27, 2001, Bush said, "To make sure the retirement savings of America's seniors are not diverted to any other program, my budget protects all $2.6 trillion of the Social Security surplus for Social Security, and for Social Security alone."

Does this make him a liar, or a "promise breaker"?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 01:32 AM
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21. I agree totally with this post, but I'm fairly sure...
...that if * gets ANY of these multi Billion/Trillion dollar "Ideas" passed through Congress and signed, the foreign Capital that is ALREADY flowing OUT of the country, will turn into a torrent.
The U.S. Dollar and Financial markets will FALL faster than you can say SELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:13 AM
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22. I have a friend that is just about to get her social security retirement
and a few weeks ago she emailed me crowing about how excited she is about closing her business up and retiring with her SS. It was very difficult to respond to her email, because I already knew that * was planning on getting rid of SS and had figured that there's a good chance I'll never get mine. I swear, it took all my will power not to fire off an angry email about what the future holds for me, my DH and son and to instead congratulate her on her new journey. I haven't heard back from her yet...and wonder if she's regretting her words now? :shrug:
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 05:43 AM
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24. I'm over 55 and YES, it's extremely insulting. n/t
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 08:01 AM
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25. Is anybody here over the age of 5 not insulted by Bush? n/t
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 08:04 AM
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26. Bush is trying to buy us off because he knows
we vote in midterm elections. Unfortunately for him, his Republican lap dogs know that, too, so I don't think there's a chance in hell of this plan going forward. Priority among all Republicans is "ME" and they won't risk losing their seats because voters are angry. (Oh yeah, and I'm insulted, too. He should remember we're the 60's generation and not timid when we're not happy.)
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