So does everybody here know all the different names/people at PNAC??

[Califooyah Operative]

I had never seen for my self how many folks were out in the open -involved, I went to the web site and was suprised by some of the names. I think it's important everyone here know who we're dealing with.


1997 - statement of principles;
Elliott Abrams - Gary Bauer - William J. Bennett - Jeb Bush -

Dick Cheney - Eliot A. Cohen - Midge Decter - Paula Dobriansky - Steve Forbes -

- Aaron Friedberg - Francis Fukuyama - Frank Gaffney - Fred C. Ikle -
Donald Kagan - Zalmay Khalilzad - I. Lewis Libby - Norman Podhoretz -

Dan Quayle - Peter W. Rodman - Stephen P. Rosen - Henry S. Rowen -

Donald Rumsfeld - Vin Weber - George Weigel - Paul Wolfowitz -


http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

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present- THE PROJECT FOR THE
NEW AMERICAN CENTURY


Established in the spring of 1997, the Project for the New American Century is a non-profit, educational organization whose goal is to promote American global leadership. The Project is an initiative of the New Citizenship Project (501c3); the New Citizenship Project's chairman is William Kristol and its president is Gary Schmitt.


Project Directors

William Kristol, Chairman

Robert Kagan

Bruce P. Jackson

Mark Gerson

Randy Scheunemann

Project Staff

Gary Schmitt, Executive Director

Daniel McKivergan, Deputy Director

Ellen Bork, Deputy Director

Thomas Donnelly, Senior Fellow

Reuel Marc Gerecht, Senior Fellow, Director of the Middle East Initiative

Timothy Lehmann, Assistant Director

Michael Goldfarb, Research Associate

http://www.newamericancentury.org/aboutpnac.htm

[lostnfound]

1. How about a Bush appointees-only list? John Bolton, Wolfowitz, Perle..

who else?

[Wilms]

2. Christian Science Monitor: Empire Builders

http://csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/

[whistle]

3. PNAC's statement of principles reads like an ultimatum for war...

...against all who challenge America's claim to world domination:

<snip from your link>

Our aim is to remind Americans of these lessons and to draw their consequences for today. Here are four consequences:

• we need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global
responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future;

• we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values;

• we need to promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad;

• we need to accept responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles.

Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our security and our greatness in the next.

<end of snip>

[Wilms]

4. There public policy is bad enough

[ClintonTyree]

5. Has anyone noticed...................

that the their agenda consists more of protecting and promoting Israel rather than protecting and promoting Americans? Perhaps they consider it one in the same, but the entire plan is about Israel's safety and security. Granted, Israel is the only outpost of Democracy in the region, yada, yada, yada. But to what extent is our protection of Israel acting as a detriment to programs that help our own country, our own people?
Israel seems quite capable of taking care of itself, thanks mostly to our government giving Israel access the weapons and technology that wouldn't be afforded any other country.
Are we sacrificing our own needs at home to ensure that Israel is safe and secure?

[liam_laddie]

6. PNAC et al

Here's a good read about the rise of five of the neo-cons. Knowing the backgrounds of today's ringleaders will help one see the policy foundations. "Gang of Five" by Nina J. Easton (wife of Ron Brownstein) pub. 2000.
As to Israel...yes, the MSM won't touch this topic. Thank the
AIPAC and other powerful lobbies. A nuclear power, but never
mentioned. They sell arms and other systems to everyone..China, etc.
Many of the "PNAC principles" signers are close to the Likud party. It's hypocrisy of the highest degree

[banana republican]

7. THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE IMPEACHED

SO THEY CAN *NEVER* HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE AGAIN.