Michael Schiavo says:

[Jon8503]

"I'm outraged, and I think that every American in this country should also be outraged that this government is trampling all over a personal family matter that has been adjudicated in the courts for seven years," he told CNN. "I think that the Congress has more important things to discuss."

[Arkana]

1. My thoughts exactly

Michael Schiavo is being demonized by self-righteous head cases who have nothing better to do with their time.

[NVMojo]

2. the only thing I don't like in this entire case is why hasn't this slimer

divorced his wife so he can marry his current woman who he has children with, give up his wife's money, let her family decide what to do with her. We wouldn't be here today if he had done that.

[AntiCoup2K4]

3. Can you legally divorce someone who can't sign the papers?

I don't think she could even manage an "X" at this point.

[beam me up scottie]

4. Because he believed that his wife's wishes

were more important.

[illflem]

5. He doesn't want to divorce because then the parents

will be the ones to dishonor Terri's request to die with dignity.
A divorce will relinquish his control.

[BlueManDude]

6. that would be the easy thing to do wouldn't it?

I don't pretent to know a helluva lot about this case but maybe he knows she wouldn't have wanted to exist like this and thus he fights for her right to die.

[Mass]

8. He has been offered $ 1M to do that

He refused and says that he is doing what his wife wanted. I think he is doing what he thinks is right. There has been an investigation done by somebodby named by Jeb Bush who says that he has been irreprochable and that Terry Schiavo is really in an irreversible vegetative state.

[1monster]

24. And at other times he was offered 7 million dollars and 10 million dollars

to walk away. I'd say he has the power of his convictions behind him and is doing what he deeply believes is the correct thing to do.

[cally]

9. Why do you call him a slimer?

There is no evidence whatsoever that he is evil. I would expect my husband to hang in there and try to respect my wishes. I would hope he found happiness with someone else but if he divorces his former wife, then he gives up any chance to implement her wishes. That would be being a 'slimer' IMHO.

[NVMojo]

33. Please post links to the claims that he has been offered money and

walked away from it. Thanks.

[cally]

40. I think you meant this to someone else

I'm trying to avoid these threads so no way would I do a google search to find this out. I didn't claim he was offered money to walk away and didn't. My claim was about the divorce and walking away from the marriage to make a new life.

[beam me up scottie]

42. here ya go

http://www.earnedmedia.org/ga0310.htm

[Mass]

43. Here is one.

Here - As you can see, this is not exactly lefty source. Google and you will find other sources.



http://www.theconservativevoice.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3767

One Man's Million-Dollar Bid to Save Terri

Michael Schiavo, Terri's husband, claims removing the feeding tube is in accordance with his wife's wishes; however, her parents disagree and have been fighting for more than 12 years to keep their daughter alive. Meanwhile, Terri has other supporters around the country exerting efforts on her behalf. LifeNews.com reports that Robert Herring, a California businessman, has offered Michael Schiavo $1 million to forego starving his estranged wife to death and to transfer legal guardianship of her to her family.

http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=3064357&nav=9qrxXNoa
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Terri Schiavo's husband is rejecting a one million dollar offer by a San Diego-area businessman who wants to keep the brain-damaged Florida woman alive.

Robert Herring announced yesterday he would pay Michael Schiavo the money if he transfers the legal right to decide his wife's medical treatment to her parents. For nearly seven years, he's been fighting to get permission to stop his wife's artificial feedings so she can die. Her parents oppose removing the feeding tube.

The businessman said yesterday the offer will remain on the table until Monday, but Schiavo's attorney is calling the proposition "offensive."

He says other such offers -- including one for 10 million dollars -- have already been made and rejected by Schiavo, who contends he once promised his wife he would not keep her alive by artificial means before she suffered severe brain damage 15 years ago.

The case has drawn international attention, particularly among religious conservatives who are supporting the woman's parents.

[coloradodem2005]

10. The question is: Is this a black and white case?

n/t

[Jon8503]

11. In answer to your questions!!!!!!!!

#1) Why should he have to divorce his wife?
#2) She would have passed away over 10 yrs ago if the right wingers had let her pass on & he could have got on with his life.
#3) You need to ask the parents about the money because that is when they got angry when he would not let them have any of the mal-practice money he and his wife got. Besides, it is gone now for legal fees fighting the right wingers and he turned down the 1,000,000.00 offered to him to keep her alive.
#4) Do you not believe in the sanctity of marriage? It is his decision to honor his wife's request. His parents gave her away in marriage according to holy laws and our laws. The decision is his.

And last/#5) You and the US Congress or any of us should not be here in the first place because this is a very personal family decision and we have no right to be making decisions for him.

That is what we are saying or the majority of the country, the government should stay out of families lives.

Lastly: Do you know him well enough to call him names? That shows real class in your actions or lack of intelligence.

[Lars39]

18. About #3...the parents expected him to split the loss of consortium

money Michael received.
Consortium definition :The right of a spouse to the company of,
help of, affection of, and sexual relations with his or her mate.

[NVMojo]

35. the sanctity of MARRIAGE!!! HAHAHAHA!! What about the sanctity

of adultery!!! HAHAHAHA! Yes, I am a cynic!!!

[Jon8503]

56. You must be a child by the tone of your messages, name calling,,

this really is not a laughing matter to some.

Shows really that you are not a very intelligent human being or a compassionate individual.

We all feel sorry for you I am sure.

[rainbow4321]

53. Hyprocritical definition of sanctity....

"Do you not believe in the sanctity of marriage? It is his decision to honor his wife's request. His parents gave her away in marriage according to holy laws and our laws. The decision is his."

You cannot use sanctity, holy laws (marriage vows?) to defend his "right" to decide if she should be killed and IGNORE that he violated all of the above when he moved in w/ another woman and now has 2 kids by her while still "married" to Terri. He can't have it both ways.

[dogman]

19. What money?

It's been spent. Does he have to be a monk because her parents with RW extremist backing have been dragging this through the courts for years? If you loved a person and they expressed their desires to you, would you walk away? I think he has shown courage. I don't believe the judges, the doctors, and he have engaged in some macabre plot to do away with her. I believe the extreme RW right to lifers and her distraught family are political manipulators.

[Cha]

31. You haven't read enough about this

case..Michael is not divorcing Terry because he is honoring her wishes the best he can and he couldn't do that if he were Not her legal guardian.

There is no reason he can't have a life and take care of Terry.

[MichiganVote]

32. You are seriously misinformed. First, it was Michael S. who initiated

the court process whereby a guardian ad litum acted to protect her through a series of Doctor's, all of whom concurred that the woman is brain dead and no amount of rehabilitation will change that.

Whether Michael S. has a new love interest has no bearing on the outcome of this case. Even if he were to bow out and divorce her, the courts guardian ad litum would still be responsible for the resultant court action. The fight then would be between the guardina ad litum and her parents who would press for guardianship.

This woman has no money. She is supported with public funds as insurance has paid the lifetime maximum. If her parents had guardianship, we would pay for her care still.

[NVMojo]

37. OK then if ms schiavo gets public funds for healthcare, everyone

should, not just the latest poster child for Reprick morals!!!

[Contrary1]

48. Here's an article I posted in another thread:

Coutesy of GW's great state of Texas, no less...

Hospitals can end life support

Decision hinges on patient's ability to pay, prognosis

"A patient's inability to pay for medical care combined with a prognosis that renders further care futile are two reasons a hospital might suggest cutting off life support, the chief medical officer at St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital said Monday.

Dr. David Pate's comments came as the family of Spiro Nikolouzos fights to keep St. Luke's from turning off the ventilator and artificial feedings keeping the 68-year-old grandfather alive.

St. Luke's notified Jannette Nikolouzos in a March 1 letter that it would withdraw life-sustaining care of her husband of 34 years in 10 days, which would be Friday. Mario Caba-llero, the attorney representing the family, said he is seeking a two-week extension, at minimum, to give the man more time to improve and to give his family more time to find an alternative facility..."

More: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3073295

[MichiganVote]

50. Once again, medicaid is a means tested program

and that means that if you have the means (to a certain level of income or ins.), you don't have the medicaid.

[stray cat]

7. That is the correct message that needs pushed.

Sometimes the courts need to get involved in unresolvable family matters but the courts have already done their job. Congress doesn't belong here.

[Kool Aid]

12. If he is correct..

why has it taken so long for this to happen? I know if I ever end up like Terri I would not want to be kept alive for 15 years. If this is truly her wish why did this go on for 15 years? Also, why has he moved on and gotten with another woman? I thought the wedding vows were, "till death do us part," not, "Till you become disabled." I really don't think the government needs to butt in but there is so much about this guy that freaks me out. Something just doesn't seem right to me.

[Jon8503]

13. It has taken so long because of the Right Wingers fighting against

the husband for their political agenda.

Secondly, he has every right to move on in his life and you and I do not know enough about him and her to make a judgment.

I know what you mean about freaking out because there is so much about her parents motives and the right wingers that doesn't seem quite right to me or that they have Terri's best interests at heart.

Stop drinking so much kool aid

[Kool Aid]

23. I'm sorry.. You are right about one thing...

he does have the right to move on, however; he does not have the right to remain married to Terri, while making babies with another woman. Hasn't anyone heard of Adultery. If he wants to move on with his life he can divorce Terri and re-marry like the rest of us would be required to do. I am amazed that there are so many people out there that are defending this jerk. It is simply amazing. How can anyone defend this man. I think maybe THEY are the ones drinking too much Kool Aid.

[Jon8503]

27. Then why don't the Right Wingers give him the right to move on

and let her die in peace???

1) Trying to break in to the hospice to bring her food? Crazy I think and not helping the situation.

2) The biggest jerk in this is the US Repukes in Congress for dragging this out and the Right Wingers terrorizing and threating the life of the judge and husband.

Its ok to murder I guess in some cases.

[POAS]

30. Would you point out to us where it is written

that a person has no right to remain married to their spouse who is totally incapacitated while at the same time having children by another person? Is this a state law? Is this a federal law? IS it in the constitution?

[NVMojo]

44. Please tell me where it is written that a president can't get a blow job

in the White House from an intern when he is married to someone else!

[POAS]

45. amen.............n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

55. You are kidding, right?

She is a vegetable. But he has stood by her for 15 years. He is far from a jerk. He could have divorced her years ago. Her parents are the ones who need their heads examined.

[K-W]

14. They have been fighting in court for years over it.

And someone freaking you out, when all you know of them is a media maelstrom is completely irrellevent.

It doesnt matter whether it seems right to you, that is the problem here. The perceptions of people around the country should have nothing to do with situations like this. This is a not uncommon legal issue. This isnt something up for a national vote.

[seabeyond]

16. suppose to happen a year or two ago, jeb bush stepped in

and stopped it. first time a governor has done that too

[1monster]

28. The feeding tube was removed and the state legislature, at Jeb's behest,

passed legislation to replace the feeding tube. Jeb signed it into law and the tube was replaced. The Florida Courts eventually ruled that this was unconstitutional. And thus, we begin the battle all over again with the US Congress interfering at the behest of the Jeb Bush.

[NVMojo]

39. the right wing nuttjobs are willing to look the other way on Mr. Schiavo's

adulterous behavior, unlike the campassion they showed former President BILL CLINTON and his adulterous behavior. Maybe they would have forgiven Bill if Hillary was a braindead vegetable??? I hate hypocrites.

[Auntie Bush]

54. Hey kool...Should Michael have to spend the rest of his life with a brain

dead wife that is in a vegetative state in order to honor his vows.
Come on! Give the man a break. Did you ever think that he spent many years grieving about the loss of his wife and the opportunity to ever have a child. One of the reasons her in-vitro didn't work was that she was bulimic. He didn't reach out for another woman until after he had been told repeatedly that she was brain dead and would never recover.

[bluedog]

15. Schiavo: 'Come down, President Bush'

Schiavo: 'Come down, President Bush'...........................

Jeb Bush's brother, President Bush, should visit Terri Schiavo, too, he said.

"Come down, President Bush," Schiavo said in a telephone interview. "Come talk to me. Meet my wife. Talk to my wife and see if you get an answer. Ask her to lift her arm to shake your hand. She won't do it."



He made a similar offer to the governor last week, saying lawmakers interferring in his wife's life know nothing about the case. So far, Gov. Bush hasn't responded to the offer.






"Instead of worrying about my wife, who was granted her wishes by the state courts the past seven years, they should worry about the pedophiles killing young girls," Schiavo said, referring to a local case. "Why doesn't Congress worry about people not having health insurance? Or the budget? Let's talk about all the children who don't have homes."

He said U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, who is leading a charge to extend Terri Schiavo's life, is a "little slithering snake" pandering for votes.



"Have they ever met her?" Schiavo said. "What color are her eyes? What's her middle name? What's her favorite color? They don't have any clue who Terri is. They should all be ashamed of themselves."


snip

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/20/Tampabay/Schiavo___Come_down__.shtml

[Nikki Stone 1]

17. Sciavo is a scumbag, but I like Tom Dulay as "slithering snake"

:)

Gotta thank whatever PR person put that phrase in his mouth.

[beam me up scottie]

21. Why is he a scumbag?

nt

[dogman]

29. That's a good question.

Stand up for what is right in your life instead of taking the million dollars offered. Honor her wishes at great personal cost. Then have that POS DeLay call you a scumbag and have members of this forum agree. It's astounding.

[beam me up scottie]

34. Oh.

I hope I'm a scumbag too.

[dogman]

38. I'd be honored to be called a scumbag by DeLay.

If DeLay had any sense of morality he would resign.

[katsy]

52. It's unbelievable that...

delay, or any representative, is allowed to call a private citizen who has COMMITTED NO CRIME a scumbag.

I wish Michael Schiavo would sue him for slander. If that POS delay can call him a scumbag, he can call any one of us scumbags. We can call him a POS because he's a public figure... since when can our representatives call private people names?

[POAS]

22. You know Schiavo so well

to call him a scumbag but can't even spell his name.......geez!

[beam me up scottie]

36. You can tell which people bothered to read

up on the subject.

[NVMojo]

41. I've spent more of my time reading about the lies being told by the

NEOCONS rather than someone else's personal tragedy being exploited by the hypocrite repigs.

[beam me up scottie]

46. My comment was inferring that

the misspelling of his name indicated lack of information.

[POAS]

47. I thought that was pretty clear!!!!!....n/t

[beam me up scottie]

49. Oh good,

I was afraid subtlety was a lost art.
thanks!
:evilgrin:

[POAS]

20. amen

[Inland]

25. To the rethugs, Terry is an issue, not a person. They won't come.

eom.

[Cha]

26. Bless his heart!

"I think that the Congress has more important things to discuss."

[Nikki Stone 1]

51. If credibility on this board were totally a function of a misspelling...

...A lot of DUers could be accused of having no credibility whatsoever. ;) I usually don't look at spelling or grammar if the point made is a good one.


The reason I keep misspelling Terry's last name is a phonetic one. I am a speaker of Italian and "Schiavo" is an Italian name. "Schiavo" has a "ch" indicating a "k" sound in Italian. The actual pronunciation of the name would be "Sk-i-a-vo" in Italian. But, the press (and probably the family itself) keeps mispronouncing her name as "Shyai-vo."

Because the press mispronounces it, I automatically spell it without the "h". Clearly, I'll have to edit my posts from now on.

[Spinoza]

57. Good for him.

Someone has to say it. The message to Congress should be: Keep Your Fucking Hands Off A Citizens Right To Die! This is a "pro-choice" issure if there ever was one.